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Elon Musk Owns Twitter; CEO and CFO have left

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Re: Elon Musk Owns Twitter; CEO and CFO have left

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Post by peterangular »

fzeroracer wrote: post #15

The odds are that Twitter will probably be dead in a year. He'll bring on a few yes-men executives that'll applaud him when he guts development and then when everything grinds to a halt they'll catch the blame. Especially since he'll probably force something like integrated NFTs on a whim. Unlike Facebook and how it's captured an older audience that's relative inelastic to moving to other platforms, I don't see peopl…

> nor do I see employees staying around either.

With major members of the C-suite turning over and his outright public aggression toward them I'd sure be concerned if I worked there.

Re: Elon Musk Owns Twitter; CEO and CFO have left

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Post by PainfullyNormal »

_aavaa_ wrote: post #20
PainfullyNormal wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but it's influence on politics is very real. > Personally I don't think this acquisition is healthy for a democracy Fewer than a quarter of Americans use Twitter. Empty rhetoric is empty.

Sure, but it seems like that quarter contains, for starters, essentially all of the mainstream journalists.

Maintstream journalists write what the owners of their publications tell them to write, especially when it comes to politics. The idea that a change in ownership of a relatively small social media company is going to have a "profound impact on democracy" is stupid. Especially since nobody seems to have a similar problem when a major media conglomerate changes ownership.

Re: Elon Musk Owns Twitter; CEO and CFO have left

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Post by mapme »

PainfullyNormal wrote: post #19
jerojero wrote: post #8

This whole thing has been rather interesting to observe. I do wonder how the platform will change now that it's privately owned. I don't really care a lot about the platform itself, but it's influence on politics is very real. Personally I don't think this acquisition is healthy for a democracy, but nonetheless, it's something I want to observe. I've always thought these platforms need more democratic structures of g…

> but it's influence on politics is very real. > Personally I don't think this acquisition is healthy for a democracy Fewer than a quarter of Americans use Twitter. Empty rhetoric is empty.

This is assuming that political power comes from influencing all Americans rather than a small fraction who hold true power (politicians, donors, journalists, industry groups, etc.). If the small fraction is all on Twitter then viola the rhetoric is meaningful.

Re: Elon Musk Owns Twitter; CEO and CFO have left

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Post by hitpointdrew »

jerojero wrote: post #8

This whole thing has been rather interesting to observe. I do wonder how the platform will change now that it's privately owned. I don't really care a lot about the platform itself, but it's influence on politics is very real. Personally I don't think this acquisition is healthy for a democracy, but nonetheless, it's something I want to observe. I've always thought these platforms need more democratic structures of g…

How on earth can you think this is less democratic? It is by far more democratic. Twitter under previous leadership was on a banning, censoring, rampage against anything that didn’t agree with their own narrative.

Re: Elon Musk Owns Twitter; CEO and CFO have left

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Post by DarknessFalls »

hitpointdrew wrote: post #24
jerojero wrote: post #8

This whole thing has been rather interesting to observe. I do wonder how the platform will change now that it's privately owned. I don't really care a lot about the platform itself, but it's influence on politics is very real. Personally I don't think this acquisition is healthy for a democracy, but nonetheless, it's something I want to observe. I've always thought these platforms need more democratic structures of g…

How on earth can you think this is less democratic? It is by far more democratic. Twitter under previous leadership was on a banning, censoring, rampage against anything that didn’t agree with their own narrative.

It's not a "narrative", it's called the Terms of Service, which specifically forbid inciting violence and hate speech. Trump, Kanye West, and other nut cakes broke those rules and that's why they got banned, after repeated warnings.

Re: Elon Musk Owns Twitter; CEO and CFO have left

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Post by pram »

fzeroracer wrote: post #15

The odds are that Twitter will probably be dead in a year. He'll bring on a few yes-men executives that'll applaud him when he guts development and then when everything grinds to a halt they'll catch the blame. Especially since he'll probably force something like integrated NFTs on a whim. Unlike Facebook and how it's captured an older audience that's relative inelastic to moving to other platforms, I don't see peopl…

Twitter already has integrated NFTs lol

Re: Elon Musk Owns Twitter; CEO and CFO have left

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Post by justapassenger »

Gigachad wrote: post #10
jerojero wrote: post #8

This whole thing has been rather interesting to observe. I do wonder how the platform will change now that it's privately owned. I don't really care a lot about the platform itself, but it's influence on politics is very real. Personally I don't think this acquisition is healthy for a democracy, but nonetheless, it's something I want to observe. I've always thought these platforms need more democratic structures of g…

Tbh the best direction for twitter to move in is to stop recommending content people did not subscribe to. And then adjust the rules to allow anything legal to be tweeted to your own page. If you object to someones tweets, don't follow them. There may still need to be rules on replying to others tweets since thats pushing content on people.

There’s very good reason why platforms like that recommend the content. Without it, it you’re not a power user (and that’s usually tiny %), your experience gets boring/empty pretty fast, as the platform ages.

Re: Elon Musk Owns Twitter; CEO and CFO have left

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Post by lapcat »

jackosdev wrote: post #9
jerojero wrote: post #8

This whole thing has been rather interesting to observe. I do wonder how the platform will change now that it's privately owned. I don't really care a lot about the platform itself, but it's influence on politics is very real. Personally I don't think this acquisition is healthy for a democracy, but nonetheless, it's something I want to observe. I've always thought these platforms need more democratic structures of g…

Isn't he going to be bringing back people who were banned off the platform, that's more democratic. US has a bunch of problems but the one thing you used to get right is freedom of speech before big tech had so much influence, I thought the major purpose of Elon wanting to buy twitter was to uphold freedom of speech as it is written in the constitution, given it's something of a town square now.

> one thing you used to get right is freedom of speech before big tech had so much influence

Before big tech, there were no global platforms where anyone could just speak to millions/billions of people for free (as in money).

You weren't "censored" by big tech because there was nothing much to censor. In the past, if you wanted to reach a massive audience, you had to go through the traditional news media, big book publishers, major TV stations, or the like, and they were definitely selective about who was allowed to speak.

Also, the so-called "town square" where strangers gather to discuss politics in public is largely or entirely a myth. There are of course public spaces, but what happens on Twitter is not what happens in real physical town squares. And of course there are city council and other government meetings, but they are strictly controlled by government officials, not a free-for-all free speech zone.

Re: Elon Musk Owns Twitter; CEO and CFO have left

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Post by lapcat »

PainfullyNormal wrote: post #22
_aavaa_ wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, but it seems like that quarter contains, for starters, essentially all of the mainstream journalists.

Maintstream journalists write what the owners of their publications tell them to write, especially when it comes to politics. The idea that a change in ownership of a relatively small social media company is going to have a "profound impact on democracy" is stupid. Especially since nobody seems to have a similar problem when a major media conglomerate changes ownership.

> Especially since nobody seems to have a similar problem when a major media conglomerate changes ownership.

They had a problem when Jeff Bezos purchased The Washington Post.

Re: Elon Musk Owns Twitter; CEO and CFO have left

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Post by philwelch »

pram wrote: post #26
fzeroracer wrote: post #15

The odds are that Twitter will probably be dead in a year. He'll bring on a few yes-men executives that'll applaud him when he guts development and then when everything grinds to a halt they'll catch the blame. Especially since he'll probably force something like integrated NFTs on a whim. Unlike Facebook and how it's captured an older audience that's relative inelastic to moving to other platforms, I don't see peopl…

Twitter already has integrated NFTs lol

And feature development has ground to a halt for years now.
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