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Post by jeromegv »

turndown wrote: post #206
girvo wrote: post #119

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It is, but it didn’t used to be. Way back at the dawn of the smartphone era I was working in consumer telco here in Aus, and half of my day was spent making sure people kept their data between phones. Even going from one android phone to another wasn’t a great guarantee, and for iPhones we used to have a computer to take a backup via the 30-pin. These days cloud backups and the like make it pretty simple on both oper…

Honestly the whole cloud backup thing wasn't all it was chalked up to be, at least during my time at Verizon, since it's so easy to reach the max on the base level cloud account they give out for free(at the time, 5GB?) We almost always just used an app(for iOS and Android) that did the data transfer.

The actual iPhone backup when you switch to a new device is actually now entirely ignoring the 5GB limit. (But it’s possible it wasn’t the case in the past) https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT212732

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Post by tantalor »

neel8986 wrote: post #10
ckastner wrote: post #3

Annual revenue of $394 billion, more than a billion a day. Not the first company to do it, though. Exxon did it in the 2000s when oil was up to $140, and I think Walmart did it, too.

There are other companies including Walmart or Amazon having larger revenue. But what truly exceptional is Apple's net income. Trailing 1 year is almost 100B !! Only Saudi Armaco can touch that

Aramco

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Post by roguesherlock »

jerojero wrote: post #180
pb7 wrote: post #171

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Because they're exceptionally good products that are beloved by everyone except the average Hacker News user. :-) There is an incredible bubble here that doesn't reflect the world.

I would like to use iPhones, they have really good cameras and very good video-recording capabilities. But sadly a lot of the apps I use are not available in the app store. To me, this is a deal breaker. Hardware-wise the product is good, but I'm not just taking pictures and chatting on snapchat. I do a bit more with my phone. For my mom, however, the phone is great and does everything she expects it to do.

This is interesting cause it’s exactly the opposite for me. I’ve pixel 6a right next to me but my sim is still on my iPhone cause I just can’t find the apps I want on the android :)

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Post by neuralspark »

sib wrote: post #275
microtherion wrote: post #56

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Apple has 150k employees. Probably get <$15 revenue on average per employee/day, 230 days a year. So <$500M of revenue a year, and with the price/quality of the food, I doubt it's being run at a profit (It's not like they have a wine menu to boost their bottom line).

Do they own and operate the cafeterias? Or is it a third-party service provider?

Own and operate, with the guidance that they should be break-even.

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Post by EarthLaunch »

gigel82 wrote: post #245
retskrad wrote: post #15

Holy moly, the Mac keeps growing like crazy. It’s amusing how Apple wanted the iPad to disrupt the Mac but the advent of M-Series chips on the Mac has really nipped that ambition in the bud.

I don't know why developers are so infatuated with laptops (and at this point I'm too afraid to ask? :)). But seriously, I need a full-sized keyboard, a mouse, and at least 2 monitors to feel productive. Yes, I realize you can probably hook those up to a laptop with a bunch of adapters and hubs too, but I also use my machines to game, so...

I've switched back and forth over the years. Sometimes 1 laptop, sometimes a desktop and a laptop. It's just easier to only have one computer. Even with cloud, synching, dropbox, etc. Having a single machine is just easier. You can put it to sleep, wake it up, and your own compiled services are still running.

The solution to keyboard / mouse / monitors / webcam / mic / speakers, is a powered USB-C hub. One plug, and you're at a desktop. This wasn't practical on Macs until the M1. With an M1 Air I did tons of work with no slowdowns for two years. It slowed down once or twice so now I'm on a Pro. PS. you can move between rooms very easily. And travel.

Edit: You're right about gaming. Mac fails at this, desktop or no. I played WoW and Stardew on my i7 Mini with an eGPU, but Apple Silicon doesn't have eGPUs, and no good games work on it. This also goes for VR.

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Post by bee_rider »

tcmart14 wrote: post #162
tshaddox wrote: post #126

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> Apple makes one of the best in class of these devices, and has successfully designed one such that it's hard to switch to a competitor (rather it's easier to stay in the ecosystem). I wonder how many years it will take before I can convince some people that I actually just prefer Apple's phones to competing phones and that I'm not actually brainwashed or forced by Apple to never leave. But that's exactly what a bra…

I switched to my first iPhone last year and for me the determining factor was not feeling I had to constantly be on the upgrade path. I've has my iPhone SE (2020) and haven't been happier with a phone. A taken care of iPhone can theoretically last 7-8 years since that is how long an iPhone generally gets OS and security updates. Android is getting better on flagship phones, but still not as good. By some none flagshi…

> Addition: And I think one thing that really hurt the Android ecosystem is when Android phones went through that phase of every phone flagship phone had some sort of gimmick. Where as Apple really just buttoned down and developed a really solid phone. A lot of android phone makers were just focusing on gimmicks like styluses or niche features to set them apart from other Android instead of just really developing a good solid smart phone.

This is how I look at it as well. Because anyone can make an Android phone, Android phone makers had to either race to the bottom or come up with their special gimmick. Those that came up with a gimmick became the phone for people who care about that gimmick. But this ceded the domain of "people who don't particularly care about which phones have which gimmicks," aka most people, to Apple.

Pixel managed to break out of this by having their gimmick be "flagship by the people who wrote most of the OS, so, just generally well-implemented," but it took a while to get there.

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Post by sumedh »

rkagerer wrote: post #256
duped wrote: post #74

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Almost every adult in the developed world needs a smart phone. They replace these devices about every 2-3 years. Apple makes one of the best in class of these devices, and has successfully designed one such that it's hard to switch to a competitor (rather it's easier to stay in the ecosystem). They've convinced about a billion people on the planet that the iPhone is the best device for them, so if you split that into…

They replace these devices about every 2-3 years As someone who buys a good smartphone then hangs onto it for 5 years, can someone help me understand the need for this?

Peer pressure specially if you are young?

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Post by bee_rider »

smoldesu wrote: post #261
AOsborn wrote: post #258

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> That quite literally cannot be the status quo going forward. Honestly, I disagree. The Apple customer experience and product ecosystem is just so far ahead of any competitors I don't want to use anything else. As far as the store is concerned specifically, I want to be able to use one store with a clear policy around payments, subscriptions and refunds - not a myriad of half-baked competitors with fragmented offeri…

That's great, I support that option for you. Personally, I just want to use the Open Source apps that Apple won't let me install. If I can have that, then there's no reason we can't both live in perfect harmony. That system works perfectly fine on Android and Google even manages to make a handsome bundle off the Play Store to boot.

Yeah, I don't really want an EPIC store on my phone, but I'd love a GNU repo.

I dunno. Maybe Apple could allow stores on their phones, but still take a % of any purchases, to annoy EPIC and their ilk into buggering off.

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Post by smoldesu »

threeseed wrote: post #312
smoldesu wrote: post #261

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That's great, I support that option for you. Personally, I just want to use the Open Source apps that Apple won't let me install. If I can have that, then there's no reason we can't both live in perfect harmony. That system works perfectly fine on Android and Google even manages to make a handsome bundle off the Play Store to boot.

> I just want to use the Open Source apps that Apple won't let me install You could signup for the developer program. Or use something like AltServer.

That's $99 (per year(!!!)), which is not very free or open.
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