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HN: The Good Parts (2016)

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Re: HN: The Good Parts (2016)

#31

Many people on HN are wrong, but it's the quality of wrong on HN that is vastly superior to the wrong you'll find anywhere else.

Indeed. As a gentleman of intellect I insist upon only the highest quality, artisinally crafted bullshit. No mere pedestrian mind-muffins will satisfy the refined palate of the HN sophisticate.

Re: HN: The Good Parts (2016)

#32
post #13

If you find yourself writing an informative comment on HN that will likely get buried. Urge yourself to write a blog article instead.

Something I appreciate about HN is having the opportunity to make a case to dozens or perhaps hundreds of my peers, without the burden of having and maintaining an audience. I don't think people recognize my name from one thread to another, and if they do I don't think they have much of a parasocial relationship with me. I don't see any evidence people "follow" my comments, for instance; the people I talk to more frequently seem like people who just have similar interests and click the same threads, not people who are interested in me and are following what I do. On two occasions people have sent me an email thanking me for making a certain comment, but it always felt like a peer pulled me aside to have a one-on-one chat, not like I was some kind of personality.

There's a moment towards the end of the Bo Burnham special "what." where he talks about the weight having an audience has in his life, and he says, "if you can go through your life without having an audience, you should do it." I do have thoughts to share and I am working on starting a blog, but I try to keep Burnham's warning in mind.

Re: HN: The Good Parts (2016)

#33
"You're not wrong, Walter, you're just an asshole" plays in my head reading all the "while what you said is interesting, allow me to shit all over you" comments on HN. It's also the only forum I participate in because it's still got really good discussions and content

Re: HN: The Good Parts (2016)

#34

I love HN technical discussions. I wish to god we could ban all the political/corporate/lifestyle discussions. I say this as someone who lacks the discipline not to get sucked into them, but nevertheless regrets it when he is.

Technically a lot of that is is off topic, but rules are selectively enforced (via community at least)

Even for the political discussions, HN still has the least-bad discussions on the internet, which I think is why people keep engaging in them. The only discussions that really bother me are the reddit style stuff

Cough... https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=amichail

You can often spot the impact of "why is the sky blue" type posts in that there are no discussion threads, it's just a long list of one-of "Rayleigh scattering" replies

Re: HN: The Good Parts (2016)

#35
post #14

Many people on HN are wrong, but it's the quality of wrong on HN that is vastly superior to the wrong you'll find anywhere else.

there's something like Knoll's Law for HN where everything seems like intelligent opinions until the topic is in your area of expertise and then...

Also like "Gell-Mann Amnesia" after physicist Murray Gell-Mann:

“Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray’s case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the “wet streets cause rain” stories. Paper’s full of them.

In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.” – Michael Crichton (1942-2008)

- some blog post https://www.epsilontheory.com/gell-mann-amnesia/

Re: HN: The Good Parts (2016)

#36
HN has a very interesting “vocal minority” thing going where certain articles will have VERY predictable comments.

ShowHN - “this doesn’t work if JavaScript is disabled” or “you should explain this product better I don’t want it”

Any hardware device: “I’ve noticed declining quality because the space bar is a very specific type of plastic now” or “I can’t even ssh into this. I miss the days when I could ssh into my shoelaces”

But there are also just insane corners of knowledge where there isn’t a lowest common denominator and it’s pretty interesting stuff.

When I do know about a given topic I don’t have to scroll TOO far to find an opinion I agree with, and sometimes an argument I hadn’t come across that changes my view.

Re: HN: The Good Parts (2016)

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah.. the upvote counts are probably more useful here than Reddit, but you still end up with a lot of wacky groupthink I think Slashdot had the best voting system ever when it was still popular, but maybe that's just rose-tinted goggles

How did Slashdot's voting system work?

Never used it but afaik you could vote along different axis. So you could vote "+1 insightful" for instance, so if a comment had a lot of votes, you had a more idea why it was upvoted.

Re: HN: The Good Parts (2016)

#39

HN has a very interesting “vocal minority” thing going where certain articles will have VERY predictable comments. ShowHN - “this doesn’t work if JavaScript is disabled” or “you should explain this product better I don’t want it” Any hardware device: “I’ve noticed declining quality because the space bar is a very specific type of plastic now” or “I can’t even ssh into this. I miss the days when I could ssh into my sh…

> "I miss the days when I could ssh into my shoelaces"

that is absolutely t-shirt worthy

Re: HN: The Good Parts (2016)

#40
> "On any topic I’m informed about, the vast majority of comments are pretty clearly wrong. Most of the time, there are zero comments from people who know anything about the topic and the top comment is reasonable sounding but totally incorrect."

This "zero comments" part doesn't line up with my experience. Maybe what was meant was "on any niche topic that very few people understand that I happen to be an expert in". I consider myself informed about a number of topics, and also constantly learn things from HN within those topics, from people who are much more informed than I am. (But, I'm not really a top 1% kind of expert on anything)

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