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> Citation needed? I think those are below the minimum. The law states nothing about data transfers or anything else.
Oh, I thought you meant spec minimum not legal minimum. Does the law not say the cables have to meet the USB C spec?
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Can that $5 USB C cable support data transfers at USB3 speeds and video over USB C? USB C also has licensing fees. The stated reason was to prevent “ewaste” and yes you can buy a $5 lightning cable. Here is a 3 pack for $10 https://a.co/d/8FB2naZ
You're actually right about the video -C cables. That feature costs extra, and I didn't notice the first time. But it's rare to need one, and they'll get cheaper over time. That 3-pack MFi Lightning for $10 is a new phenomenon. It was never like that before. I can believe it's not fake, just cheap cause it's old tech and on its way out.
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Oh, I thought you meant spec minimum not legal minimum. Does the law not say the cables have to meet the USB C spec?
There are plenty of “USB C specs” https://www.androidauthority.com/state-of-usb-c-870996/
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It doesn’t prevent “ewaste” if phone makers (mostly low end Android phone makers) still bundle shoddy cables, stores are still allowed to sell shoddy cables, etc. And USB C is not free of licensing requirements https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/450494/are-u... A “good” USB C cable that supports all of the things I said - high speed data, video over USB, etc - costs around $15. The same price as an Anker…
> A “good” USB C cable that supports all of the things I said - high speed data, video over USB, etc - costs around $15. The same price as an Anker Lightning cable. But the Lightning cable won't support high speed data. And if you want video over Lightning you can't just use a cable, you need an adapter with an embedded computer to decompress the output. A USB C cable that has the same capabilities as that Lightning…
USB C cables that come with the iPad supports all of those standards. What are the chances that unsuspecting users in the EU dancing in the streets go in an buy a “standard USB C” and find out that it doesn’t work when they get ready to plug their phone to the TVs or when they find out the promise of “USB3 speeds” because it was the “standard” is a lie because the EU didn’t mandate that as part of the standard?
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It feels like anything labeled "Pro" got USB-C faster, except the AirPods Pro gen 2 :(
People expect to be able to charge the headphones they use for their phone the same manner they charge their phone. I suspect they'll be quick to change over such accessories once they change the phone port - they have had several smaller revisions to the non-pro AirPods, such as adding support for wireless and MagSafe charging cases. We will likely just be able to buy a new case when that happens. The real surprise…
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There are plenty of “USB C specs” https://www.androidauthority.com/state-of-usb-c-870996/
And they all require data wires. The minimum speed is the same speed as Lightning. And the minimum wattage is higher than Lightning as far as I am aware.
The maximum wattage of the little USB C cable that comes with headphones certainly don’t support a minimum wattage that will charge a large iPhone at any appreciable speed.
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> They probably feel similar to people with lightning cables. Lightning supports video. Or were you just making a joke about how unreliable it is? Cause man, I can't even charge my phone sometimes.
Lightning doesn't support video over mere cables. You need a complicated adapter that decompresses the video sent by the device. It's like a tiny streaming setup. If you just pick up a generic lightning cable, you're not getting video.
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But even those non-tech people should have some USB-C cables lying around at this point Android phones have used USB-C cables for many years. The Nintendo switch and PS5 controllers use USB-C cables. Chromebooks use USB-C cables. The alarm clock I just bought uses a USB-C cable. My keyboard uses a USB-C cable. Every MacBook made in the last five years (and most iPads sold in the last couple years) uses a USB-C cable.…
I have about twelve Lightning cables (2 in car, 4 permanently installed at convenient locations, a few in my work bag, an couple in another bag and some currently missing) and one USB-C cable, which I use for charging my laptop. At some point soon, perhaps when I get a new iPhone, I am going to have to start buying more USB-C cables. I will then spend years looking at the end of cables to see what the connector looks…
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And they all require data wires. The minimum speed is the same speed as Lightning. And the minimum wattage is higher than Lightning as far as I am aware.
They definitely don’t. The USB C cord that came with the previous MacBook Pros were power only as are a lot of other USB C cables especially ones that come with headphones. The maximum wattage of the little USB C cable that comes with headphones certainly don’t support a minimum wattage that will charge a large iPhone at any appreciable speed.
Which ones? The posts I can find say they do USB 2.0
> a lot of other USB C cables especially ones that come with headphones.
> The maximum wattage of the little USB C cable that comes with headphones certainly don’t support a minimum wattage that will charge a large iPhone at any appreciable speed.
Those cables don't meet the standard, then. The minimum is 3 amps and a single pair of data wires. And that doesn't require much, especially for a little 6 inch cable.
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> A “good” USB C cable that supports all of the things I said - high speed data, video over USB, etc - costs around $15. The same price as an Anker Lightning cable. But the Lightning cable won't support high speed data. And if you want video over Lightning you can't just use a cable, you need an adapter with an embedded computer to decompress the output. A USB C cable that has the same capabilities as that Lightning…
The EU is suppose to be mandating a “standard”. What good is a “standard” that doesn’t support the “standard”? USB C cables that come with the iPad supports all of those standards. What are the chances that unsuspecting users in the EU dancing in the streets go in an buy a “standard USB C” and find out that it doesn’t work when they get ready to plug their phone to the TVs or when they find out the promise of “USB3 s…
And I don't think this reduces ewaste. It's about the same.