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Re: Apple Reports Fourth Quarter Results

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Post by boringg » Thu, Oct 27, 2022, 9:05 PM UTC

pavlov wrote: post #19

leokennis wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don’t forget Tim Cook also brought you crummy gambling ads next to gambling addiction recovery apps on your $1500 phone.

Only if you open the App Store… Which I practically never do. The apps on my phone have been essentially the same for years. If I ever install something, it’s probably through a web link or QR code that goes straight to the right app. The App Store is clearly a big wasted opportunity. 12 years ago I was actually eager to find new apps there. Why did Apple let it become a slum?

Wow I really never spent time thinking about it as a product but yeah it really was a wasted opportunity. Discovery is terrible and the quality of a lot of the apps are poor. It's obviously not an easy problem to solve but still I only go to the App Store to specifically get the app that I need.

Re: Apple Reports Fourth Quarter Results

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Post by m3kw9 » Thu, Oct 27, 2022, 9:05 PM UTC

Apple essentially makes require hardware(iPhone) most people needs and they leverage that to over other hardware and services around it. Simple and effective, not easy to do though!

Re: Apple Reports Fourth Quarter Results

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Post by electriclove » Thu, Oct 27, 2022, 9:05 PM UTC

Did they announce anything in regards to share buybacks? They reduced outstanding shares by ~37% over the past 10 years. https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/AAPL/apple/shares-...

Re: Apple Reports Fourth Quarter Results

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Post by throwaway1777 » Thu, Oct 27, 2022, 9:06 PM UTC

pavlov wrote: post #19

leokennis wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don’t forget Tim Cook also brought you crummy gambling ads next to gambling addiction recovery apps on your $1500 phone.

Only if you open the App Store… Which I practically never do. The apps on my phone have been essentially the same for years. If I ever install something, it’s probably through a web link or QR code that goes straight to the right app. The App Store is clearly a big wasted opportunity. 12 years ago I was actually eager to find new apps there. Why did Apple let it become a slum?

Basically the same reason Amazon let marketplace become a slum. It’s an open platform and becomes a race to the bottom and full of junk and spam and whoever wants to pay for ads for their junk and spam.

Re: Apple Reports Fourth Quarter Results

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Post by junofan » Thu, Oct 27, 2022, 9:07 PM UTC

SoftTalker wrote: post #21

retskrad wrote: post #15

Holy moly, the Mac keeps growing like crazy. It’s amusing how Apple wanted the iPad to disrupt the Mac but the advent of M-Series chips on the Mac has really nipped that ambition in the bud.

It's amazing. I sometimes wonder what value these people see in this stuff. I guess I just "think different" as nothing that Apple offers is compelling to me in the slightest way. Yet one can't deny the reality.

Even Linus Torvalds uses a MacBook now. I just can’t find nicer machines out there.

Re: Apple Reports Fourth Quarter Results

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Post by rl3 » Thu, Oct 27, 2022, 9:07 PM UTC

pavlov wrote: post #19

leokennis wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don’t forget Tim Cook also brought you crummy gambling ads next to gambling addiction recovery apps on your $1500 phone.

Only if you open the App Store… Which I practically never do. The apps on my phone have been essentially the same for years. If I ever install something, it’s probably through a web link or QR code that goes straight to the right app. The App Store is clearly a big wasted opportunity. 12 years ago I was actually eager to find new apps there. Why did Apple let it become a slum?

>Why did Apple let it become a slum?

They gambled and lost.

Re: Apple Reports Fourth Quarter Results

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Post by Apocryphon » Thu, Oct 27, 2022, 9:08 PM UTC

FullyFunctional wrote: post #16

TMWNN wrote: post #8

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Harry Truman said in 1945 about the atomic bomb, "We thank God that it has come to us, instead of to our enemies". I feel the same way about Apple and FAANG and Silicon Valley as a whole (and Wall Street, and Hollywood, and SpaceX/Tesla, and the Ivy League), that they are in the United States. That doesn't mean I approve of everything they do. That doesn't mean I can't or won't decry their putting thumbs on scales to…

You mean AAG? :) both Facebook and Netflix have slid dramatically from their prior glory.

Google is Alphabet, just call it AAA.

Re: Apple Reports Fourth Quarter Results

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Post by jshzglr » Thu, Oct 27, 2022, 9:08 PM UTC

leokennis wrote: post #13

pavlov wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So Apple Watch and AirPods is almost as big a business as the Mac. Wow, I didn’t realize that. Quite a vindication of Tim Cook’s decade at the helm.

Don’t forget Tim Cook also brought you crummy gambling ads next to gambling addiction recovery apps on your $1500 phone.

Although this is not ideal, it's also basically not an issue for me. I spend approximately 5 min a month in the App Store.

However, I do a perceive a slight sheen on the slope.

Re: Apple Reports Fourth Quarter Results

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Post by breck » Thu, Oct 27, 2022, 9:08 PM UTC

electriclove wrote: post #25

retskrad wrote: post #15

Holy moly, the Mac keeps growing like crazy. It’s amusing how Apple wanted the iPad to disrupt the Mac but the advent of M-Series chips on the Mac has really nipped that ambition in the bud.

I bought the M1 MacBook Air when it came out almost 2 years ago. I’m Still amazed at how quickly everything opens and how long the battery lasts.

I haven’t bought any M2s yet. Still so giddy about the M1

Re: Apple Reports Fourth Quarter Results

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Post by numbsafari » Thu, Oct 27, 2022, 9:09 PM UTC

pavlov wrote: post #19

leokennis wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don’t forget Tim Cook also brought you crummy gambling ads next to gambling addiction recovery apps on your $1500 phone.

Only if you open the App Store… Which I practically never do. The apps on my phone have been essentially the same for years. If I ever install something, it’s probably through a web link or QR code that goes straight to the right app. The App Store is clearly a big wasted opportunity. 12 years ago I was actually eager to find new apps there. Why did Apple let it become a slum?

> Only if you open the App Store… Which I practically never do.

Which also says a lot about Tim Cook's tenure. They are facing major regulatory scrutiny due to the App Store, in addition to it being a major knock on their brand, instead of it being the asset it once was.

It's a leadership problem, for sure.