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27 years since the Financial Times killed one of England’s finest poets

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Re: 27 years since the Financial Times killed one of England’s finest poets

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>twitter often only lets you see the first few posts if you are not logged in that would be a reason, but I've never personally encountered it. I see full threads even when logged out. >you can read without distracting interspersed comments, like the forum posts of yesteryear. I've never encountered interspersed comments on Twitter threads. they're visible the way they're visible in the thread reader website, one aft…

I don't need to see an avatar, date and username above each sentence of a blog post. Twitter monologue threads are dumb, the whole premise of the service is to write under 280 characters (used to be 140).

The practice has some merits.

Sometimes a thread simply evolves out of a conversation.

Sometimes one comment just leads to another.

And sometimes it's helpful, useful, and/or interesting to have individual sentences or paragraphs of a thread split into their own items, so that it becomes more clear what specific parts of a discussion are especially engaging, confusing, interesting, etc. People can comment or respond to specific parts of the thread rather than the whole thing.

For writers who are accustomed to either global/overall feedback, or none at all, this can be enlightening. It's about as close to the experience of giving a live lecture or presentation as exists online, in that in a live presentation people can also respond or react to specific moments as they occur.

Re: 27 years since the Financial Times killed one of England’s finest poets

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I don't need to see an avatar, date and username above each sentence of a blog post. Twitter monologue threads are dumb, the whole premise of the service is to write under 280 characters (used to be 140).

The practice has some merits. Sometimes a thread simply evolves out of a conversation. Sometimes one comment just leads to another. And sometimes it's helpful, useful, and/or interesting to have individual sentences or paragraphs of a thread split into their own items, so that it becomes more clear what specific parts of a discussion are especially engaging, confusing, interesting, etc. People can comment or respond…

I believe all of that can be done just as well if not better with a traditional comment section like the one here on hn. My other issue is that the conversation is very difficult to follow since it's split into many threads.

>it becomes more clear what specific parts of a discussion are especially engaging, confusing, interesting, etc. People can comment or respond to specific parts of the thread

Quoting solves this.

Obviously Twitter works for you, which I find enlightening since up until now I thought that the experience is subpar for everyone and the reason long form content is posted on twitter is purely because it's easier to spread it around. Clearly there's more to it.

Re: 27 years since the Financial Times killed one of England’s finest poets

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post #42

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The practice has some merits. Sometimes a thread simply evolves out of a conversation. Sometimes one comment just leads to another. And sometimes it's helpful, useful, and/or interesting to have individual sentences or paragraphs of a thread split into their own items, so that it becomes more clear what specific parts of a discussion are especially engaging, confusing, interesting, etc. People can comment or respond…

I believe all of that can be done just as well if not better with a traditional comment section like the one here on hn. My other issue is that the conversation is very difficult to follow since it's split into many threads. >it becomes more clear what specific parts of a discussion are especially engaging, confusing, interesting, etc. People can comment or respond to specific parts of the thread Quoting solves this.…

For what it's worth, I don't use Twitter.

My comments above are based on my experience writing, reading, responding to, and otherwise interacting with and observing longer toot threads ("tootstorms" on Mastodon, comparable to "tweetstorms" on Twitter).

And are compared with experiences on numerous other platforms and systems, ranging from Usenet to HN, and in particular including Reddit, G+, Diaspora*, and Mastodon.

Mastodon is a rough Twitter analogue. It tends to give a broader exposure than forum-based or friend-based (e.g., Google+, specific subreddits) forums. And again, in particular what I observe is people responding to specific toots within a longer stream in a way that's simply not evident in other formats. It's not an unallowed good. It is a notable characteristic of the format, however.

Some examples are hashtagged through my profile (though this link doesn't seem to be working at the moment): https://toot.cat/@dredmorbius/tagged/tootstorm>

As an alternative, try: https://toot.cat/web/tags/tootstorm>

Re: 27 years since the Financial Times killed one of England’s finest poets

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"There are two things you need to know," she said. "The first is that Gavin came home yesterday happier than I have seen him in a long time. The second - and you are not to feel bad about this - is that he died this morning." For some reason that strikes me as the most moving thing I have read in a long time.

Speaking of moving things, the poem about a convalescent cat actually made me tear up a bit (I have a 17 year old convalescent cat): https://poetryarchive.org/poem/14-year-old-convalescent-cat-...

Thank you for that. Our cat died at 16 about seven years ago and that poem fits perfectly. And yes, the tears are coming even after all these years. We gladly paid the vet for whatever they thought might save him until she gently said it was time to let him go. As my wife said we owed it to him to give him whatever chances we could.

Re: 27 years since the Financial Times killed one of England’s finest poets

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Here is a good one; Office friends by Gavin Ewart Eve is madly in love with Hugh And Hugh is keen on Jim. Charles is in love with very few And few are in love with him. Myra sits typing notes of love With romantic pianist’s fingers. Dick turns his eyes to the heavens above Where Fran’s divine perfume lingers. Nicky is rolling eyes and tits And flaunting her wiggly walk. Everybody is thrilled to bits By Clive’s sugges…

One of the downsides of working from home.
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