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Re: Audiobooks on Spotify

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Post by Maxburn »

tpxl wrote: post #63
ihuman wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That depends on the service or app. Some accept both, and some only take RSS. Apple Podcasts used to accept Atom feeds, but they don't anymore for new podcasts. All the feeds Edit: do you know any podcasts that use an atom feed? None of the 80 feeds in my podcast app are atom feeds.

The underlying protocol is an implementation detail. I don't know any atom feed podcasts (and can't find any), but I can find references to people using (or trying to use) atom for podcasts.

I've been casual into podcasting and listening to the developers create Podcasting 2.0 and I haven't heard anyone talking about atom feeds. I think podcasting has firmly settled on rss.

Re: Audiobooks on Spotify

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Post by agentwiggles »

JadoJodo wrote: post #2

Does anyone else take issue with Spotify branching out into other arenas (e.g., Podcasts, TV, Audiobooks, etc.)? I'm honestly kinda tired of all of these services trying to gobble up any slightly related industry. I subscribe to Spotify to listen to music, not podcasts. My podcasts arrive using a different app with the backing of the RSS standard, not Spotify's internal standard. I don't want to get a subscription co…

Yes, as far as I concerned Spotify was basically perfect in like 2012, and most all of the features added (and _REMOVED_) since then have made the app experience worse. I want to listen to music. That's it. Anything that gets in the way of me doing this is a net bad afaic.

I'm still particularly offended by their near deprecation of support for local files. When I first got into Spotify the seamless integration with my local music library was a huge selling point. At some point, the app tried to help me by "linking" my meticulously organized concert playlists with studio versions of the songs... I have not been inspired to give that feature more time since.

I feel like I get closer to just getting an mp3 player again every day.

Re: Audiobooks on Spotify

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Post by stronglikedan »

JadoJodo wrote: post #2

Does anyone else take issue with Spotify branching out into other arenas (e.g., Podcasts, TV, Audiobooks, etc.)? I'm honestly kinda tired of all of these services trying to gobble up any slightly related industry. I subscribe to Spotify to listen to music, not podcasts. My podcasts arrive using a different app with the backing of the RSS standard, not Spotify's internal standard. I don't want to get a subscription co…

It's fine if they branch out, but they abuse their users with popups, and by not being able to hide these extra features. I just want to listen to music without having to repeatedly tell them that's all I want to do.

Re: Audiobooks on Spotify

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Post by elefantastisch »

crazygringo wrote: post #26
JadoJodo wrote: post #2

Does anyone else take issue with Spotify branching out into other arenas (e.g., Podcasts, TV, Audiobooks, etc.)? I'm honestly kinda tired of all of these services trying to gobble up any slightly related industry. I subscribe to Spotify to listen to music, not podcasts. My podcasts arrive using a different app with the backing of the RSS standard, not Spotify's internal standard. I don't want to get a subscription co…

I have no issue with it business-wise -- if they don't, they'll eventually die because a podcast/audiobook app expands into music. I just have a major issue with it UX-wise. I wish podcasts and audiobooks were their own separate apps. I've totally given up even trying to understand Spotify's UX anymore. I always eventually manage to play what I want through some combo of scroll/filter/search/history but I just feel l…

Idagio is a great alternative for classical.

Re: Audiobooks on Spotify

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Post by amelius »

JimA wrote: post #59

Regardless of the passionate feelings against Spotify, it's hard to dispute their basic premise that Apple is deliberately creating a bad user experience just to preserve their walled content garden. The same thing applies to not being able to buy a book using the Amazon app. It's ridiculous and there is no valid argument against it other than greed. Not a fan of overregulation, but in this area I can't wait for Appl…

Yes, there should be a law that hardware that the user paid for cannot be tethered by the manufacturer. Otherwise it is a service, not a product.

Re: Audiobooks on Spotify

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Post by [deleted] »

stronglikedan wrote: post #73
JadoJodo wrote: post #2

Does anyone else take issue with Spotify branching out into other arenas (e.g., Podcasts, TV, Audiobooks, etc.)? I'm honestly kinda tired of all of these services trying to gobble up any slightly related industry. I subscribe to Spotify to listen to music, not podcasts. My podcasts arrive using a different app with the backing of the RSS standard, not Spotify's internal standard. I don't want to get a subscription co…

It's fine if they branch out, but they abuse their users with popups, and by not being able to hide these extra features. I just want to listen to music without having to repeatedly tell them that's all I want to do.

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Re: Audiobooks on Spotify

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Post by [deleted] »

cush wrote: post #66
JadoJodo wrote: post #2

Does anyone else take issue with Spotify branching out into other arenas (e.g., Podcasts, TV, Audiobooks, etc.)? I'm honestly kinda tired of all of these services trying to gobble up any slightly related industry. I subscribe to Spotify to listen to music, not podcasts. My podcasts arrive using a different app with the backing of the RSS standard, not Spotify's internal standard. I don't want to get a subscription co…

> Does anyone else take issue with Spotify branching out into other arenas Branching into audio books is the obvious next move. It's not like Netflix attempting to make games. If you think that's bad, take a look at Disney

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Re: Audiobooks on Spotify

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Post by [deleted] »

elefantastisch wrote: post #74
crazygringo wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have no issue with it business-wise -- if they don't, they'll eventually die because a podcast/audiobook app expands into music. I just have a major issue with it UX-wise. I wish podcasts and audiobooks were their own separate apps. I've totally given up even trying to understand Spotify's UX anymore. I always eventually manage to play what I want through some combo of scroll/filter/search/history but I just feel l…

Idagio is a great alternative for classical.

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Re: Audiobooks on Spotify

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Post by smoldesu »

Maxburn wrote: post #67
tpxl wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> are not, by definition, a podcast because they don't have a valid rss feed Does a podcast need to have a rss feed? All I see in definitions is that its an audio format made available over the internet. > And of course there's zero chance they will embrace podcast 2.0 features What is Podcasting 2.0? All I see is a bunch of people doing podcasting differently, namely adding ads and crypto.

Podcasting 2.0 is mostly about removing ads, shifting to a direct streaming monetary support model via crypto. The bonus with this model is once advertisers are removed free speech is no longer a problem. Also a big focus on decentralization in order to prevent censorship.

> The bonus with this model is once advertisers are removed free speech is no longer a problem.

How is it a problem now? RSS feeds already can't be taken down by angry third-parties, and offer perfectly usable decentralization. Advertising is entirely an at-will process for podcast hosts, so they can choose whether or not they want to shackle themselves to a third-party that might object to the content they spread. Connecting your podcast to a crypto wallet doesn't fix that, and it's nothing you couldn't do with preexisting XML syntax.

Even if Spotify adopted Podcasting 2.0, why would users care? Even as a technical guy, I want nothing to do with a crypto-adjacent monetization model. Podcasting 1.0 already solved these problems years ago, there's a good reason the major podcast players are wary of this "upgrade".

Re: Audiobooks on Spotify

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Post by [deleted] »

fasouto wrote: post #51
JadoJodo wrote: post #2

Does anyone else take issue with Spotify branching out into other arenas (e.g., Podcasts, TV, Audiobooks, etc.)? I'm honestly kinda tired of all of these services trying to gobble up any slightly related industry. I subscribe to Spotify to listen to music, not podcasts. My podcasts arrive using a different app with the backing of the RSS standard, not Spotify's internal standard. I don't want to get a subscription co…

I am a paying customer and for some reason they show me an popup ad every time I open the app... It's extremely annoying.

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