I'll be happy to carry just one charging cable for everything in my bag in a few years. Hopefully this gives Anker the chance to make One USB-C Cable To Replace Them All with gold connectors and ∞ durability
Apple says iPhones will switch to USB-C chargers to comply with new EU law
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Re: Apple says iPhones will switch to USB-C chargers to comply with new EU law
#282Earlier quoted context omitted.
> "they're always changing their cables". It's obviously not true, Last year Apple switched from USB-C charging to a new MagSafe charger on M1 Macbooks. USB-C was first introduced in 2018, moving away from the old MagSafe design. These are a very recent changes, so I'd say this still applies.
Thankfully they do still charge on the USB port but yes it does seem odd they didn’t just give customers another usbc port instead.
I do quite like the usability of lightning, and I was quite upset when they cut it. I tried using 3rd party USB-C magnetic adapters, but they mostly suck. I welcome the dualism of new lightning + USB-C charging, the best of both worlds.
Re: Apple says iPhones will switch to USB-C chargers to comply with new EU law
#283Earlier quoted context omitted.
They do from MFi certified cables. You have to pay apple a licensing fee. and the non licensed cables will sometimes give you an error.
I’ve bought dozens of cords over the past decade that weren’t MFI certified and not have any issues. Do you think the top selling Lightning cables on Amazon or at your local bodega or convenience store paid Apple a fee?
Lightning is a trademark. As far as i know you can't make a lightning cable an sell it as one without paying apple
Re: Apple says iPhones will switch to USB-C chargers to comply with new EU law
#284It's sad that it took legislation to make this happen, but I can see why. I worked in a pseudo-Apple-store during the height of the 30-pin dock connector and I sold so many cases, speaker docks, charging cables, and all sorts of weird accessories that were built for the 30-pin connector. Then Apple switched to Lightning. It was better in every. single. way. And yet people got burnt. There was so much hardware that wa…
I suspect that Apple has been in progress of moving things over to USB-C for a while (see the recent Apple TV and iPad changes). They have already moved off of USB-A chargers completely, moving onto USB-C chargers.
My understanding is they are also pushing the upper limits of what lightning charging cables are rated for, my suspicion is that it can't support PPS, so the lightning port is now limiting them both in charging speed/flexibility and in data transfer.
But in some markets (like the US) you have more lightning-charged iPhones than android phones. It is a lot big cost for their customers to bear, throwing away a decade of chargers and cables when Apple is not really going to be able to express it as an improvement to them - for instance, most phone users don't use the data channel at all, getting updates and backing up data with the cloud.
I find it odd people think their reluctance has been to defend profits on some sort of lightning cable ecosystem. Their margin on phones is likely $100+. Their margin on the licensing for a third-party cable is likely below $0.50.
I'd argue this regulation is great for Apple, because it gives them a scapegoat. Apple then claims didn't necessarily _want_ to cost their customers a bunch of money, but the EU mandated it. So Apple is going to go ahead and make the change worldwide.
But hey, look, at the same time we improved phone charging speeds and look how fast we can transfer ProRes media you captured with your phone now to your computer? Feel free to tack those new official charging cables and data transfer cables along with any chargers you need at purchase, if you don't have any already.
Re: Apple says iPhones will switch to USB-C chargers to comply with new EU law
#285Earlier quoted context omitted.
Except that the regulation doesn't do any such thing (the USB-C mandate will expire automatically after a few years) and the innovation angle is just bloviating from people who haven't read the regulation and need a desperate need to defend their rich mega corporation.
> Except that the regulation doesn't do any such thing (the USB-C mandate will expire automatically after a few years) The precedence has been set. > and the innovation angle is just bloviating from people who haven't read the regulation and need a desperate need to defend their rich mega corporation. lol dude, aside from your clear lack of knowledge in economics - you're never going to learn anything with that attit…
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Re: Apple says iPhones will switch to USB-C chargers to comply with new EU law
#286It's sad that it took legislation to make this happen, but I can see why. I worked in a pseudo-Apple-store during the height of the 30-pin dock connector and I sold so many cases, speaker docks, charging cables, and all sorts of weird accessories that were built for the 30-pin connector. Then Apple switched to Lightning. It was better in every. single. way. And yet people got burnt. There was so much hardware that wa…
> "they're always changing their cables". It's obviously not true, Last year Apple switched from USB-C charging to a new MagSafe charger on M1 Macbooks. USB-C was first introduced in 2018, moving away from the old MagSafe design. These are a very recent changes, so I'd say this still applies.
USB-C was 2016 but yeah. 2006 to 2022, the changes were MagSafe 1 -> MagSafe 2 -> USB-C -> MagSafe 3. That's enough changing that every new laptop you bought probably had a different way of charging, and the MagSafes were hardly different from each other.
But the alternative was you got a Dell/whatever laptop with some one-off charging mechanism.
Re: Apple says iPhones will switch to USB-C chargers to comply with new EU law
#287Earlier quoted context omitted.
Except that the regulation doesn't do any such thing (the USB-C mandate will expire automatically after a few years) and the innovation angle is just bloviating from people who haven't read the regulation and need a desperate need to defend their rich mega corporation.
> Except that the regulation doesn't do any such thing (the USB-C mandate will expire automatically after a few years) The precedence has been set. > and the innovation angle is just bloviating from people who haven't read the regulation and need a desperate need to defend their rich mega corporation. lol dude, aside from your clear lack of knowledge in economics - you're never going to learn anything with that attit…
>Caring about precedence
>On roman Law
lmao precedence of this kind would mater if this was the commonwealth but historically precedence has meant nothing in the EU
That's the thing about roman law, just because one judge decided fucking people in the ass is correct it does not mean everyone should agree. So don't use the tools for the analysis of anglo law in this.
Re: Apple says iPhones will switch to USB-C chargers to comply with new EU law
#288It's sad that it took legislation to make this happen, but I can see why. I worked in a pseudo-Apple-store during the height of the 30-pin dock connector and I sold so many cases, speaker docks, charging cables, and all sorts of weird accessories that were built for the 30-pin connector. Then Apple switched to Lightning. It was better in every. single. way. And yet people got burnt. There was so much hardware that wa…
You're skipping how Apple made Lightning a closed standard and charged big royalties for it. I can reasonably point to that licensing as the reason a legitimate Lightning to USB cable costs at least $15 instead of $1.50, cause the latter is how much a good knockoff costs.
Re: Apple says iPhones will switch to USB-C chargers to comply with new EU law
#289It would be better if EU regulators asked Apple to open their Lightning cable standard so other phone vendors can use it. I very much like Apple’s implementation of their charging cable because it uses less space on the device.
It's USB 2 in different plastic mold. Awesome indeed.
Re: Apple says iPhones will switch to USB-C chargers to comply with new EU law
#290Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have a family member with a similar iPhone charging issue.
Toothpick. Clean port. That has saved almost every iPhone people bring me that’wont charge’. Every other one Apple has fixed for free as some internal solder has failed. But that was twice in about 50 cases. (I do free/volunteer tech support for old peoples homes)
Another possible issue: arcing/stuff burning on to one of the lightning pins. IDK why it happens, it’s probably lint or something, but it’s easy enough to mitigate: If a cable stops working all the sudden, the first thing I do is wet my fingers and rub both sides of the lightning cable’s connector. Most of the time that does the trick, no new cable or tools needed!
An example of the issue I found searching the issue real quick: https://www.thetechmentor.com/posts/fix-lightning-cable-burn...