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Apple says iPhones will switch to USB-C chargers to comply with new EU law

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Re: Apple says iPhones will switch to USB-C chargers to comply with new EU law

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Apple has been moving their entire lineup to USB-C for a while already (iPad Pro in 2020, iPad Mini in 2021, more devices this year) . Sure, in public they have to oppose tech sector regulation, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were secretly happy as it provides them with an excuse. If some customers who have heavily invested into the Lighting ecosystem complains then can always say "look, it was the EU, blame the…

Correction, my iPad Pro from 2018 also has USB-C

Re: Apple says iPhones will switch to USB-C chargers to comply with new EU law

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> Joswiak also claimed that the proprietary Lightning cable and the USB-C cable would not exist if Apple had agreed to the EU original demand of using the older Micro USB charging cable which had poor reliability and could easily be damaged. So... what happens when USB-C no longer makes sense anymore? Will they have to keep using it no matter what? Wait for the law to change?

USB-C will make sense forever now. Nobody will develop something else. That's not necessarily a bad thing, it is what it is.

USB-C might very well be the last wired connection standard, but I expect a port free iPhone within 10 years that charges via induction and has some way to do some data transfer by that as well.

Re: Apple says iPhones will switch to USB-C chargers to comply with new EU law

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> see also the GDPR whose only consequence is a bunch of cookie pop ups. well that's just wrong.

So exactly what did it accomplish? Did it affect Facebook or Google at all or any adTech company? When ATT was implemented by Apple, many ad tech companies announced it impacted them. You didn’t hear a whisper after the GDPR. Websites just started putting up annoying cookie banners and life continued.

What do you want exactly? Make tracking illegal? Make advertising illegal?

The law demands you ask the user for consent, if it made tracking illegal people would complain about their freedom to sell their private data for cat pictures.

There are consequences for GDPR, maybe you did not see any but I can assure you that there were news about fines and you can Google for that. I can also inform you that at my work place GDPR also had an effect.

What you need is browser makers to get involved and improve the situation, I am sure you would have hated EU to tell you how to implement a ""do not tack" in your browser. The main issue is that Chrome is controlled by Google and they don't want to help with privacy. But who knows maybe your favorite company Apple will push and implement a consent for tracking API .

Btw here in EU GDPR also has effect in real world, just an example before GDPR you would get exam results published publicly with names, now you get a serial number and instead of names the results will ahve this serial number, nobody will know what your results are. Same if you go to a clinic to do a blood tests, they need to give you a paper and specify exactly what they will do with your data.

Big tech is trying to avoid doing the right thing as much as possible but they will pay larger and larger fines until they will have to respect the users.

Re: Apple says iPhones will switch to USB-C chargers to comply with new EU law

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> Nothing can fix the stupidity of USB-C cables, though What is the stupidity of USB-C cables? Honestly don't know, simply not up on USB or cable technology

In short there is no way of knowing by looking at a USB-C cable or socket what it supports because there is a myriad of standards all using the same connector - USB Power Delivery, USB 2.0, 3.0, 3.1, 4.0, Thunderbolt 3, Thunderbolt 4, DisplayPort over USB You have to usually measure to know what does the cable support and what speeds and or voltages are possible.

Not only that, but it is not possible to make a do-everything USB-C cable.

Re: Apple says iPhones will switch to USB-C chargers to comply with new EU law

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> Nothing can fix the stupidity of USB-C cables, though What is the stupidity of USB-C cables? Honestly don't know, simply not up on USB or cable technology

There’s an oft-repeated complaint that they are too versatile

They are opaque. For a given use case you need to know which USB-C cable you need, and they all look just alike, but can have varying capabilities. You can't even make a do-everything cable, either.

Re: Apple says iPhones will switch to USB-C chargers to comply with new EU law

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no you're not. sturdier, clicks in better and doesn't wear down the same way. and im not even a apple fan/user.

You've never had a bad connection with Lightning? Every Lightning cable I've ever had has two pins that have become blackened due to frequent arcing. And the "click" is dependent on the quality of the cable. USB-C cables from Apple click in exactly the same as their Lightning cables, for example.

uhh tbh no. i have had problems with that stupid little center piece in a usb c port weakening because it's still a stupid design.

Re: Apple says iPhones will switch to USB-C chargers to comply with new EU law

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It's sad that it took legislation to make this happen, but I can see why. I worked in a pseudo-Apple-store during the height of the 30-pin dock connector and I sold so many cases, speaker docks, charging cables, and all sorts of weird accessories that were built for the 30-pin connector. Then Apple switched to Lightning. It was better in every. single. way. And yet people got burnt. There was so much hardware that wa…

My MacBooks would like a word. The Magsave cable changes every few years, regardless of outside forces. None of the ‘older’ ones fit my newer MacBooks…

There’s been three in total and the new one works concurrently with usbc and is an optional, nice, extra.

Re: Apple says iPhones will switch to USB-C chargers to comply with new EU law

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It's sad that it took legislation to make this happen, but I can see why. I worked in a pseudo-Apple-store during the height of the 30-pin dock connector and I sold so many cases, speaker docks, charging cables, and all sorts of weird accessories that were built for the 30-pin connector. Then Apple switched to Lightning. It was better in every. single. way. And yet people got burnt. There was so much hardware that wa…

Something I found interesting when discussing this with my wife.. All my friends are tech heads and champing at the bit to have usb-c in their iPhones. But when she asked me why people were mad about the switch to usb-c it took me by surprise. Then she showed me a lot of online responses from non technical people who see the change of port as annoying and wasteful because now all their stuff won’t work without adapte…

It is not a difference in mind sets.

Those "non technical people" want the same thing that the "tech heads" want: One type of cable that is compatible with all their devices. They just don't necessarily realize that they have already organized their lives in a way that excludes mismatched cables.

I would be just as happy to have everything switch to lightning. I really don't care what it is I just want all my cables to be the same.

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