Europe now has so much natural gas that prices just dipped below zero
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Re: Europe now has so much natural gas that prices just dipped below zero
#2Rather, so few places to store natural gas for ordinary use. Don’t trust journalists to be not dumb.
Re: Europe now has so much natural gas that prices just dipped below zero
#3I had to pay 800 euros last month for home energy on my variable contract in Amsterdam. Insane.
Re: Europe now has so much natural gas that prices just dipped below zero
#4Sorry what? The price of gas has multiplied by 15 here...
Re: Europe now has so much natural gas that prices just dipped below zero
#5Normally you run storage facilities neither all the way full nor all the way empty: you want to be able to smooth out fluctuations in supply and demand. Because of the war Europe is running gas storage near its upper limit, which means we should expect less flexibility and more price volatility: they won't want to draw them way down if we get a serious cold snap, and they have nowhere to put extra gas if it's warmer than usual. The latter happened, there's nowhere to put incoming gas, so spot prices fell below zero.
Re: Europe now has so much natural gas that prices just dipped below zero
#6> Natural gas prices just dipped below zero.
> Those ships [are] carrying about $2 billion worth of LNG.
Really?
Re: Europe now has so much natural gas that prices just dipped below zero
#7This is a better situation than the reverse. It’s fortunate the winter has been mild so far. Will be interesting if the LNG industry can keep pace and replace Russia for good.
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#8> Natural gas prices just dipped below zero. > Those ships [are] carrying about $2 billion worth of LNG. Really?
The local spot prices dropped below zero. The price of gold might be 1000 currency units an ounce, but if my house is about to collapse under the weight of all my gold I might pay you a little to take it off my hands - dropping the price below zero for the people in my immediate vicinity.
Re: Europe now has so much natural gas that prices just dipped below zero
#9> Natural gas prices just dipped below zero. > Those ships [are] carrying about $2 billion worth of LNG. Really?
Depends on where those ships can offload the LNG. If they were in Asia or the US Northeast, prices would not be negative. (But prices differ by significant multiples between those locations)
Re: Europe now has so much natural gas that prices just dipped below zero
#10Any link to the price charts?