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And I guess that means we won't get any more cable interface innovation for a while. Are we really that certain that micro USB -- I mean, USB-C -- is the format to standardize on for the foreseeable future?
> And I guess that means we won't get any more cable interface innovation for a while. What cable innovations has the iPhone had thus far?
And I guess that means we won't get any more cable interface innovation for a while. Are we really that certain that micro USB -- I mean, USB-C -- is the format to standardize on for the foreseeable future?
And I guess that means we won't get any more cable interface innovation for a while. Are we really that certain that micro USB -- I mean, USB-C -- is the format to standardize on for the foreseeable future?
The EU regulations have regular reevaluations of the format built in. So if something better comes along, it can replace USB-C at that point.
It's sad that it took legislation to make this happen, but I can see why. I worked in a pseudo-Apple-store during the height of the 30-pin dock connector and I sold so many cases, speaker docks, charging cables, and all sorts of weird accessories that were built for the 30-pin connector. Then Apple switched to Lightning. It was better in every. single. way. And yet people got burnt. There was so much hardware that wa…
Forget the 12VHPWR problems, we had a push for a new connector last gen too and it was universally reviled for some reason. People do not want a new connector, let alone a new voltage rail to help move that power a little more safely, they just wanna keep doing 8-pin forever even when it swells to 4+ connectors and starts dictating PCB layouts etc.
If people want to be evenhanded and honest about seriously looking at legacy standards, it's time to have a chat about ATX and PCIe add-in-card form factorand their relevance in the 21st century. It's time for a new connector and new voltage rails and new form factors for GPUs in general, that standard dates back to the original AT PC (ATX is literally "AT eXtended") and a PC no longer looks anything like it did in 1980.
The "add-in-card" is now pulling more than the actual CPU and the growth of the coolers makes supporting them physically difficult, and the chaos in the market has made solutions impossible because there is no standard for physical dimensions or connector plug-points etc. This is textbook, it's the exact same situation as pre-USB connector standards, everyone is doing their own sizes and layouts and it's chaos. Why should we not have government intervention to impose some common standards and get everybody on the same page so solutions can be engineered and we move forward? Why should a GPU not be a 6x4x12 inch box (or a set of other standard sizes) that slides as a module into the case with high-current connectors in a standardized location? No more GPU sag, no more 4x8pin, just one XT90 jag that contacts as you slide the module into its receptacle on a rail. Sounds like heaven to me.
EU should look at giving a standards body a mandate to move forward past that and we can work towards mandatory adoption of the new standard and outlawing the sale of legacy ATX within 5-10 years. That sounds extreme but it's what we did for USB-C, right? But it's different when it's your sacred cow and you have to pay for new hardware...
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It doesn't matter what you think, the busybodies have made their choice so you can't make yours.
Couldn't agree more. I don't understand why the HN crowd is so supportive of government telling people what to do, as evidenced by your rapid downvotes. I don't use an iPhone but I'm disappointed Apple caved.
And I guess that means we won't get any more cable interface innovation for a while. Are we really that certain that micro USB -- I mean, USB-C -- is the format to standardize on for the foreseeable future?
And all because Apple refused to play ball and just adopt USB-C like the rest of the industry. They're too used to US regulators that just roll over and don't follow through with their threats. For over a decade the EU has tried to get the industry to adopt a common standard without mandating it in law (we got microUSB on all phones instead of the previous proprietary ports thanks to the 2009 voluntary EU memorandum…
Well I'm glad the EU decided to tackle important subjects. Not like they have a monetary and energy crisis going on at the moment.
For instance, since you brought up energy, even recently it was feared that Europe will have trouble this winter but now they have a glut: https://www.wsj.com/articles/europe-once-fearing-gas-rationi...
There are also long term and short term problems that warrant different strategies.
Some problems are important to solve but not urgent, while others are both.
I must be the only person on HN who thinks the lightening port is better than USB-C.