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Re: reMarkable 2

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Post by [deleted] »

fra wrote: post #304
eps wrote: post #162

Nice. Lost me at subscription. (Edit, to clarify - not because of what it offers, but because the very existence of a subscription tends to create wrong incentives for the company so to try and push people onto them. Maybe not now, but this will happen. Guaranteed.) Also, I don't see a properly supported way to actually get docs to/from the device without a cloud service, theirs or someone else's. For example, [1] sa…

Repeat after me: "Traditional hardware purchases do not support software investments", as Zach Supalla so decisively put it ( https://www.atomsandbits.io/p/hardware-software-business-mod... ). You can not ask for cloud-enabled conveniences, as well as bug fixes, security updates, and product improvements for years to come for a one time fee. Increasingly, devices are a delivery mechanism for software, and one way or…

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Re: reMarkable 2

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Post by vkazanov »

BossingAround wrote: post #318

Before buying remarkable, compare remarkable to a BOOX device. I did just that and my conclusion was that remarkable is an overpriced piece of tech at risk of being abandoned. For example, just the reading software on BOOX is leaps and bounds ahead of Remarkable. Similarly, on BOOX, you've got Android, which opens up a number of possibilities, while remarkable uses Linux (which sounds awesome until you realize that n…

I very much agree.

While of course Remarkable positioned itself as a notebook. But in practise it is not. You really want to use these 300-500$ devices for something other than just expensive notebooks. Some people want to write on whitepaper pdfs, others want their comic books and then there's notetaking. And you can draw, yes, if you really, REALLY want it.

But it just doesn't feel like real drawing, even Remarkable is... okay at best. And not okay, given the price and the limited feature set.

So I went with a 10.3 inch Boox Note instead of Remarkable a couple of years ago. Never regreted it! I read my whitepapers, write on these, easily navigate multicolumn docs. My daughter loves reading her comic books, writing on them, etc. I also do some notetaking.

But that's just a perspective who dives into sci-oriented writing a lot. For other people Remarkable's slightly better writing is totally worth it - and that's ok.

Re: reMarkable 2

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Post by vulcan01 »

necovek wrote: post #217
Aeolun wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Onyx Box Nova Air C Call me old fashioned, but I just cannot take a product with a name like this seriously. Is it a knockoff sold by OODREEFT on Amazon? Does it come pre-installed with Chinese spyware? That’s the signal a name like that gives me. Same for the fact that it runs an android variant. Even if the remarkable software is sometimes suboptimal at least they took the time to build their own.

How about that LG OLED C2 Evo 55" TV? Do you prefer that over LG OLED C1 or maybe LG NanoCell 80 Series or Nanocell 90 Series? Or maybe those Apple iPhone XS Max phones? Or iPhone 14 Plus or iPhone 13 Pro Max? Are these knock-offs sold by a reseller on Amazon? What I am saying is that there are (universally accepted as) good products that have silly names. Naming is done by marketing departments trying to be clever,…

Don't forget Sony, with their WH1000XM3s and Xperia 5 IIIs.

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Post by gizmo »

tjbiddle wrote: post #350
boesboes wrote: post #329

Not sure why this pops up now, nothing new afaik, but I'll take this as a chance to leave a quick review ;) I bought one during the kickstarter, mostly for note taking; but also as a ereader & perhaps drawing tool. - For note taking: I prefer a simple paper notebook, as my notes are more procedural. I don't really look back often. It's fine. Just not better then paper for note taking imo. - As a e-reader, it is absol…

Why is it 'dog shit' as an e-reader? I mean, how badly can you fuck that up? I feel like that should be a pretty simple feature.

Awkward to hold, slow page turns, bad battery life. A kindle is a million times better for epub reading. For PDF e-reading it's no good either because it's slow, and you can't read charts on a low resolution grayscale display.

Re: reMarkable 2

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Post by jseliger »

tjbiddle wrote: post #350
boesboes wrote: post #329

Not sure why this pops up now, nothing new afaik, but I'll take this as a chance to leave a quick review ;) I bought one during the kickstarter, mostly for note taking; but also as a ereader & perhaps drawing tool. - For note taking: I prefer a simple paper notebook, as my notes are more procedural. I don't really look back often. It's fine. Just not better then paper for note taking imo. - As a e-reader, it is absol…

Why is it 'dog shit' as an e-reader? I mean, how badly can you fuck that up? I feel like that should be a pretty simple feature.

I'm not the OP but also have a reMarkable 2: the reMarkable 2 doesn't appear to mount as a standard USB external disc on MacOS (Kindles do, however). This makes it hard to manage a library via Calibre or a similar system. The reMarkalbe 2 really, really wants users to sign up for subscription services that manage the device through reMarkable's servers, which adds a bunch of unpleasant and difficult-to-manage steps, relative to the simple strategy of "plug in, send to device" that Calibre enables.

In addition, I often download articles from https://www.instapaper.com/u; the reMarkable 2 often malforms them, in ways other e-readers, including Kindles and iPads, don't.

I infer that reMarkable's scheme and hope is to sell monthly sync software, but this plan works poorly with my e-reader workflow and, I'd guess, others'.

Probably there are ways to get around these limitations (and, reading the thread, I see some people listing rsync and such), but they're so annoying out of the box that I wish I'd not bought mine.

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Post by lhl »

pantulis wrote: post #136
aanthracite wrote: post #116

https://onyxboox.com/boox_maxlumi2

Is this the only option for 13''? I am looking for something that can display sheet music to my poor eyesight.

There's another Android 13" eink tablet I know of, the Bigme X6 but the Onyx Boox Max Lumi or Max Lumi 2 are both cheaper and should basically do the same thing (load any Android apps). The Fujitsu Quaderno A4 is an option too but it only supports loading PDFs and has no third party apps (w/o rooting it).

The Dasung Paperlike 3 HD or Onyx Boox Mira are 13.3" monitor solutions as well, something to consider if you want to hook them up just as output to run w/ arbitrary software (both companies have 25" versions as well).

Re: reMarkable 2

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Post by tomtheelder »

politelemon wrote: post #131
japanuspus wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With regard to security, it seems to me that the most obvious comparison for the ReMarkable would be a paper notepad which would also be compromised if you had physical access? Saying this as a former ReMarkable owner (and kickstarter backer) who ended up only using the device as a notepad, after learning that I read in a non-linear fashion which doesn't work well on the relatively slow screen. And for notes, I ended…

> With regard to security, it seems to me that the most obvious comparison for the ReMarkable would be a paper notepad which would also be compromised if you had physical access? No that doesn't sound like an obvious comparison at all. It has a feature that it feels like a notepad when writing, but that's where the similarities end. Imagine if you compared a phone security to a flashlight because phones have a torch…

I think the security concerns are a lot closer to a notebook than they are to other digital devices. It really doesn't do many things. It writes notes, and has ebooks and pdfs.

A smartphone requires different security concepts than a flashlight because access to a smartphone can open up all sorts of risks- identity theft, bank account access, etc. But that's not true for the reMarkable. It offers roughly the same capabilities as a notebook. If someone got into my reMarkable they would have access to exactly the same stuff as if they got into my old notebooks.

Re: reMarkable 2

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Post by Mezzie »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #159
fhe wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

fellow nonlinear-reader here. random access to an otherwise rather linear content format is so key for me, and the responsiveness and user interface are maddening. now i can't stop marveling at paper as a medium -- it got so many things right. it certainly wasn't the first try by humans. we tried clay plates and sheep skin and bamboo chips, until we hit upon paper. but nonetheless it's amazing that paper is still not…

> i can't stop marveling at paper as a medium -- it got so many things right. it certainly wasn't the first try by humans. we tried clay plates and sheep skin and bamboo chips, until we hit upon paper. but nonetheless it's amazing that paper is still not surpassed after more than a thousand years. Does paper have any advantage over vellum ("sheep skin") other than being cheaper? Most of the media you mention are supe…

> Does paper have any advantage over vellum ("sheep skin") other than being cheaper?

Ink takes far less time to dry on paper as opposed to vellum from my understanding. It's also thinner and easier to use in printing presses. Paper also can be produced in various thicknesses/with various textures to allow for different kind of work. (Think newspaper paper vs. watercolor paper). Paper is also recyclable - you can break down paper and use it to create new paper.

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