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Re: The Gnome Project is closing all its mailing lists

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gnome was the chosen ui and now its terrible, aiming for a mythical apple convert who wants a touch friendly interface gnome 2 was the truth. im curious if id still be running gui's today if gnome didnt crap the bed so bad, im mainly in tmux now.

It's the perfect UI for this ex-MacBook user on the Surface. I'm glad somebody made a UI that actually works in both form factors. All that's missing is a swipe keyboard.

see? my point.

Re: The Gnome Project is closing all its mailing lists

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It's the perfect UI for this ex-MacBook user on the Surface. I'm glad somebody made a UI that actually works in both form factors. All that's missing is a swipe keyboard.

see? my point.

Not your point. We're not mythical creatures. We exist.

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It's not that easy, you will be tied to GNOME just by fact this or that app (for which there might not be replacement) picked GTK for its interface, so you have to at least go thru configuring it to look the same as the rest of your desktop. No matter which DE you chose you will be under GNOME's malady of design decisions. > They have a vision and stick to it for years. I'm happy they don't just feel offended by post…

Well yeah, if you use a gnome app, it'll look like a gnome app. In other news, if you use green paint, it'll paint things green.

GTK was a GUI toolkit, it was DE agnostic and also cross platform (though it looked like shit). But as we can see from your comment GTK was captured by GNOME to be a GNOME exclusive project, if a change broke XFCE , GNOME people pretended they do not know what an XFCE is.

Re: The Gnome Project is closing all its mailing lists

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It's not that easy, you will be tied to GNOME just by fact this or that app (for which there might not be replacement) picked GTK for its interface, so you have to at least go thru configuring it to look the same as the rest of your desktop. No matter which DE you chose you will be under GNOME's malady of design decisions. > They have a vision and stick to it for years. I'm happy they don't just feel offended by post…

Well yeah, if you use a gnome app, it'll look like a gnome app. In other news, if you use green paint, it'll paint things green.

I didn't know chromium was a gnome app. Now I hate them for manifest v3.

Re: The Gnome Project is closing all its mailing lists

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> they piss some people off by making radical choices No, people are not pissed off by the radicality of the choices. Stop taking people for uneducated jokers. People are pissed off because they understand the choices and do not agree with them or what they imply. Gamification, pushing apps and app stores, using the same disempowering concepts as mobile plateforms, changing design every so often for no good reason, f…

The main reason I'm not using Linux at home is exactly updates - I don't want to be bothered for hours figuring out arcane error messages for each and every round of updates. When a distribution will be able to handle updates like the mobile platforms I will reconsider, and until then I'll handle this hassle only at work where I'm paid for it.

I don't care if you run Linux or not, but for a home computer try a LTS distro, maybe Kubuntu , don't install third party PPAs and you should not get any problems updating. Using an LTS means that you are not getting the new shinny thing that you might see on the internet though.

But if your current setup works painlessly for you then keep using that.

Re: The Gnome Project is closing all its mailing lists

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Well yeah, if you use a gnome app, it'll look like a gnome app. In other news, if you use green paint, it'll paint things green.

GTK was a GUI toolkit, it was DE agnostic and also cross platform (though it looked like shit). But as we can see from your comment GTK was captured by GNOME to be a GNOME exclusive project, if a change broke XFCE , GNOME people pretended they do not know what an XFCE is.

GTK has long been under the GNOME umbrella.

The XFCE folks are welcome to fork GTK to support their own use cases.

Re: The Gnome Project is closing all its mailing lists

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I love Gnome, they piss some people off by making radical choices, but slowly they keep iterating and coming up with something nice over a long term. They have a vision and stick to it for years. I'm happy they don't just feel offended by posts like yours and act like short term pleasers. It's foss, you can fork it, you can use KDE. you can switch to Windows if you want. That's what free as in freedom is. Personally…

Like what? I think it's generally agreed that their main product, the GNOME UI, uh, sucks.

GNOME UI is very snappy and pragmatic, in my opinion much better than macos on a laptop screen for example. Out of every OS, I will happily use Gnome on wayland without a second thought, and I’m not alone.

Re: The Gnome Project is closing all its mailing lists

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GTK was a GUI toolkit, it was DE agnostic and also cross platform (though it looked like shit). But as we can see from your comment GTK was captured by GNOME to be a GNOME exclusive project, if a change broke XFCE , GNOME people pretended they do not know what an XFCE is.

GTK has long been under the GNOME umbrella. The XFCE folks are welcome to fork GTK to support their own use cases.

>GTK has long been under the GNOME umbrella.

Did you know that GTK was a cross platform tookit, even on Windows and Mac OS? Andf you did not had to install GNOME on Windows to use a GTK app, because it was a tooklit for making apps, and GNOME was a project that combine GTK apps, and a window manager to make a DE.

Many apps ported to Qt so I don't think there is a chance that GTK will get a viable fork, Qt will be the only cross platform toolkit

Re: The Gnome Project is closing all its mailing lists

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post #51

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It's the perfect UI for this ex-MacBook user on the Surface. I'm glad somebody made a UI that actually works in both form factors. All that's missing is a swipe keyboard.

see? my point.

It’s also very good on a laptop with a touchpad. You swipe up for overview, swipe left right for another desktop, each desktop contains a few windows. It’s easy and fast.
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