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Re: reMarkable 2

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Post by ad404b8a372f2b9 »

szszrk wrote: post #26
stewbrew wrote: post #15

The rm2 is a really nice device but you also have to take into account the price for their subscription service. IMHO they totally ruined it with their subscription service. On the other, I assume this is the only way they could raise the money to keep going. Times don't get better for them with more and more e-ink devices that support note taking etc.

Worth noting they actually announced changes to subscription that basically cancels the whole thing. Subscription still exists, it's cheaper, but basic functions that we (clients) were told comes with device itself are again not tied to subscription. That move of theirs was insane, this change must be a direct reflections of clients correctly voting with their wallets.

If you were told it comes with the device as a client then it comes with the device. They were transparent about the switch to subscriptions, anyone who bought before subscriptions has all these features for free, anyone who bought after would have been able to read about the subscription model before buying.

Re: reMarkable 2

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Post by Rickasaurus »

stewbrew wrote: post #15

The rm2 is a really nice device but you also have to take into account the price for their subscription service. IMHO they totally ruined it with their subscription service. On the other, I assume this is the only way they could raise the money to keep going. Times don't get better for them with more and more e-ink devices that support note taking etc.

My guess is that the handwriting translation (ICR) stuff requires cloud processing?

Re: reMarkable 2

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Post by badwolf »

Jataman606 wrote: post #41
phrz wrote: post #14

A wonderful product ruined by a proprietary cloud. The problem with the latter was very promptly proven by the unilateral imposition of a subscription. The product is useless without its cloud.

What do you mean by useless? Does it completely not work when not connected to the cloud or you just loose sync between devices feature?

I use a RM2 every day. I don't pay for the subscription. After they emailed me that my free trial was ending, I just turned it off, because I didn't use any of the subscription features

Re: reMarkable 2

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Post by wellthisisgreat »

visarga wrote: post #203
marcus_holmes wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I keep mine in airplane mode unless/until I want to transfer stuff or update it. I don't even use the PIN at all. It's a replacement for my notebook - it's at least as secure as a physical notebook, and several times lighter (I'd need about 5 notebooks for everything I've got on it).

I keep it in front of my keyboard in landscape mode, like a large trackpad. I've scribbled over 2000 pages since I bought it. Meeting notes, planning, algorithm design, mind maps... I usually never read again what I doodle on it, only sometimes it helps me refresh some data. So it's like unlimited paper.

do you have any stand you'd recommend for that? I mean to hold it for scribbling? I have Ratta Supernote which I love and would want to use it like that too

Re: reMarkable 2

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Post by blululu »

ad404b8a372f2b9 wrote: post #275
blindseer wrote: post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These features were free to begin with! Then they got greedy (imo a marketing / sales background product manager thought they should price more aggressively) and started charging for basic features! Honestly the device was completely unusable at that point. And now they are reverting ONLY because Kindle Scribe is going to be out soon, and they need to look like they are a similar product. I can guarantee that unless…

All cloud features remained free for people who owned the device before they implemented the subscription model as far as I know, it's not a bait and switch.

This is true for now. As someone who bought the original ~3-4 years ago, I feel very nervous that the way I use my $500 device is not aligned with the company’s long term road map. Add the fact that I recommended this device to a bunch of friends and family (the v1 is a great product) and I am personally on the hook for figuring out how to get half a dozen annoyed friends/family to get ssh access. The cost of them changing this is high for me personally and I really don’t have a lot of faith that they will not discontinue this subscription waiver at some point in the future.

Re: reMarkable 2

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Post by solarkraft »

girvo wrote: post #246
huggingmouth wrote: post #144

I bought a rm2 a while back but abandoned it when I discovered it had extremely weak security: no fde, a weak remotely-resettable 4 digit pin, no local file syncing (doesn't appear as a mass storage device when plugged in as a usb, doesnt support standard file transfer protocols), non-e2ee (!!) cloud syncing (their company can see my notes unencrypted). Now I use an android tablet that I locked down + synching and i…

I have the best of both worlds: my Boox Note 2 is an android tablet but is a 10” e-ink Wacom note taking device too. It’s been brilliant, albeit less polished in some corners than the RM2 of course — but the note taking experience (and reading experience) is not one of them: it’s fantastically polished and performant. And got crazy good after sales support with firmware updates too to add new features to their notes…

> it’s fantastically polished and performant

Except when you want to zoom, pan, not zoom/pan while writing or want an infinite canvas (I do). Or if you don't want your page's content to completely shift away from its background (irreversibly) when rotating the device. Those are just the most prominent bugs I remember, there were more.

I love the writing feel of E-Ink; the software makes it unusable.

You may be thinking "just use another app and hack up the SD to enable scribble mode when using it": Well - With Squid, anyway, pen strokes get lost due to suboptimal palm rejection (what the SDK reports seems to be different from what Android reports). Besides, the SDK only sends the stroke after it has been finished, which would be sub-optimal for potentially collaborative applications like Excalidraw.

Such a letdown. Software updates are great, you can even root it, Syncthing works well. But I mainly use my Nova 2 as a slightly fancier alternative to my Kindle that I'm much more worried about breaking.

I'm still excited about the potential. If anyone reading this is also interested in hacking around on Boox devices, let's talk, maybe: https://gitter.im/boox-users/community

Re: reMarkable 2

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Post by wellthisisgreat »

abduhl wrote: post #249
augasur wrote: post #222

Personally as a paper gperson, who loves to write on sheets any quick thoughts, TODO lists and anything that comes to my mind, it seemed a very good choice, but pricing now seems quite high. I have tried multiple online tools, but I do not like the feel. After reading multiple real user comments, I do not think I still want to buy it. Does anyone know any other good alternatives for paper notes? I see multiple people…

I have had a Supernote A5X ( https://supernote.com/ ) for about 3 years now. It is good for someone focused on writing, it lacks a lot of the drawing/sketching capabilities and its cloud storage offerings are sparse. Both of these are pluses to me as I don’t sketch or back up to the cloud for security reasons. Unlike the Remarkable the pen nib does not need to be replaced regularly (mine is fine after extensive use f…

I am an extremely happy Supernote user too. have both A5X and A6X although A6X isn't seeing as much use. A5X is just perfect

Re: reMarkable 2

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Post by criddell »

penguin_booze wrote: post #93
L0stLink wrote: post #51

I honestly cannot see the value in ReMarkable after the Kindle Scribe announcement. The kindle has a newer faster, 300dpi display vs 226dpi on the ReMarkable. I am waiting on reviews before ordering one for myself, but I can already see that Kindle Scribe is going to be disruptive for this segment.

Same here: waiting for reviews before I jump on the wagon. Although, my primary motivation is to read PDF documents, especially the 2-column ones, than the prospect of taking notes or drawing. I hope it won't disappoint.

IMHO 10" is too small for PDFs. Now that Amazon is after their market, they should go someplace that Amazon isn't: devices with letter / A4 sized display.

I believe Sony and Fujitsu sell a 13.3" epaper device and of course the iPad is available in that size. There's a whole lot of space between the very limited $700 Quaderno and the super powerful $2000 iPad Pro.

Re: reMarkable 2

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Post by mhitza »

exabrial wrote: post #274
huggingmouth wrote: post #144

I bought a rm2 a while back but abandoned it when I discovered it had extremely weak security: no fde, a weak remotely-resettable 4 digit pin, no local file syncing (doesn't appear as a mass storage device when plugged in as a usb, doesnt support standard file transfer protocols), non-e2ee (!!) cloud syncing (their company can see my notes unencrypted). Now I use an android tablet that I locked down + synching and i…

> weak security I think security is important, but unless you're going up against a state actor with physical access, I think this isn't a credible threat at this time.

Or you know, their servers get hacked and everybody's notes are leaked. Or you get a nosie employee that just has raw access to your files.

re2 has been on my radar for at least a year at this point, but given the lack of features, price point, and the not so ideal size for PDF reading I'm still on the lookout. It's a nice looking device, but not quite there yet.

Re: reMarkable 2

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Post by tuffacton »

I bought one hoping to try it with the expectation I could return it using their 100-day guarantee. Ultimately decided the experience was too painful for my usual workflows in terms of reading and annotating my PDFs for grad school and work.

Their return process was the most PAINFUL return experience I've ever had to go through. You have to specify exactly what you're returning from their online menus and they use a delivery service that takes weeks to make deliveries. If you selected the wrong options (maybe you picked "tablet + pen" instead of "tablet + pen + extra pen nibs") they will send it all the way back to you and instruct you to attempt another return. They finally accepted it after 4 attempts, including one attempt where I did everything correctly and they still sent it back.

All this is to say, if you're looking to try the device with the expectation that you can use the return policy then be ready for a painful experience if you don't like it.

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