Live data from Hacker News

PayPal restores to its TOS $2,500 charge for any post they don't like

twitter.com

61–70 of 158 posts

Re: PayPal restores to its TOS $2,500 charge for any post they don't like

#62

Remember the guy who collected tens of thousands of dollars for Katrina victims and PayPal just closed their account and stole all the money? This POS company is a blight on humanity. Neither their executives nor the government officials that should be regulating them care, since they’re all laughing all the way to the bank.

See I would rather 1 scammer get away if it means 100 legitimate fund raisers get to keep operating.

Canada's Trudeau showed the world what the nightmare scenario is: he single-handedly and with no evidence, decided that donating to a cause was retroactively illegal and every donor in his jurisdiction will have their assets frozen extra-judicially. No thanks.

Re: PayPal restores to its TOS $2,500 charge for any post they don't like

#63
post #36

Wow, great news! Now everyone who says anything racist will have to put $2500 into the swear jar. I expect racism will disappear overnight, and we will have a plushappy society with institutionalized love for all. Thanks PayPal!

Quoted post unavailable.

PayPal might be one of the worst company out there, but criticizing them on their contribution to the afro-american community is not one I'd make.

Re: PayPal restores to its TOS $2,500 charge for any post they don't like

#64
I don't agree with PayPal's decision here but I'm failing to see how it's as broad as people seem to be making it.

The TOS specifically say that you may not use PayPal for promotion of hate etc.

So you might not be able to buy a Nazi flag via PayPal but there's nothing there, for example, to stop you posting an image of a Nazi flag on Twitter.

Re: PayPal restores to its TOS $2,500 charge for any post they don't like

#65

I cancelled my PayPal account after it was first announced a few weeks ago. This just makes me even more sure it wasn’t a ‘mistake’ on their part.

Same here. I had an account from 2002 and closed it without a second thought. On the plus side, they sent an individual email for each business or person that I had a payment set up with even if it was not recurring which made it very easy to figure out what vendors I needed to update.

Re: PayPal restores to its TOS $2,500 charge for any post they don't like

#66
How exactly do conditions like this work in practice?

I can go ahead and write a ToS or even a contract that says "if you don't give me a blue M&M on Saturday 29 October 2022, you owe me $1M". I can get a client to sign it, perhaps it's part of my conditions as a freelancer.

I can't realistically see any court enforcing that.

As far as I can tell PayPal can only get away with this nonsense because they hold your money anyway. It's exactly the sort of reason people are fighting against cashless/custodial financial systems.

Re: PayPal restores to its TOS $2,500 charge for any post they don't like

#67
post #36

Wow, great news! Now everyone who says anything racist will have to put $2500 into the swear jar. I expect racism will disappear overnight, and we will have a plushappy society with institutionalized love for all. Thanks PayPal!

Quoted post unavailable.

Supporting black people, community, and businesses is racist ?

Re: PayPal restores to its TOS $2,500 charge for any post they don't like

#68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quoted post unavailable.

Supporting black people, community, and businesses is racist ?

Yes. It's exclusive to a specific race of people. The definition of racism.

You might say it's "positive racism" though, as rather than oppress, it rewards being born black.

Re: PayPal restores to its TOS $2,500 charge for any post they don't like

#69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Supporting black people, community, and businesses is racist ?

Yes. It's exclusive to a specific race of people. The definition of racism. You might say it's "positive racism" though, as rather than oppress, it rewards being born black.

From Wiki :

> Racism is the belief that groups of humans possess different behavioral traits corresponding to inherited attributes and can be divided based on the superiority of one race over another.

How is helping a discriminated community racist, according to this definition ?

Re: PayPal restores to its TOS $2,500 charge for any post they don't like

#70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. It's exclusive to a specific race of people. The definition of racism. You might say it's "positive racism" though, as rather than oppress, it rewards being born black.

From Wiki : > Racism is the belief that groups of humans possess different behavioral traits corresponding to inherited attributes and can be divided based on the superiority of one race over another. How is helping a discriminated community racist, according to this definition ?

A group of humans possessing inherited attributes (black skin) are divided (into two groups, one being helped, the other not) based on the superiority of one race over another (only blacks need help, because other races are better off?).
Post reply on HN