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PayPal restores to its TOS $2,500 charge for any post they don't like

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Re: PayPal restores to its TOS $2,500 charge for any post they don't like

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Post by wtcactus »

minraws wrote: post #20
hobbitstan wrote: post #2

I cancelled my PayPal account after it was first announced a few weeks ago. This just makes me even more sure it wasn’t a ‘mistake’ on their part.

I am curious to understand the reasoning behind people saying it was a mistake, like how does something that big get past all the C-suites, F-suites and every other suite people of the company... Like I mean seriously was everyone blind!?

Well, PayPal did say, several times, it was just an internal error and that they, absolutely, weren't going to implement that measure. [1]

Some people were also reporting, that when closing their account, a message stating the measure was not going to be implemented was shown up in the screen (but I didn't see any clear proof that was true).

[1] https://news.yahoo.com/paypal-policy-permits-company-fine-14...

Re: PayPal restores to its TOS $2,500 charge for any post they don't like

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Post by mlambie »

andrekandre wrote: post #31
minraws wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am curious to understand the reasoning behind people saying it was a mistake, like how does something that big get past all the C-suites, F-suites and every other suite people of the company... Like I mean seriously was everyone blind!?

whats the f-suite?

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Re: PayPal restores to its TOS $2,500 charge for any post they don't like

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Post by origin_path »

labster wrote: post #36

Wow, great news! Now everyone who says anything racist will have to put $2500 into the swear jar. I expect racism will disappear overnight, and we will have a plushappy society with institutionalized love for all. Thanks PayPal!

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Re: PayPal restores to its TOS $2,500 charge for any post they don't like

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Post by dns_snek »

111111101101 wrote: post #39
Bellend wrote: post #14

I used to use paypal for everything but it occurred to me that I haven't used it since 2018. What niche does it support that direct payments don't? When I think of paypal, I think of delays.

I prefer to use PayPal to pay at random sites just because I'd rather not give my credit card number to a site that could be backdoored or even run by fraudsters. https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/18/fbi_credit_card/

If you're concerned about fraudulent transactions, you could use single-use virtual cards offered by banks like Revolut (or equivalent in the US).

Re: PayPal restores to its TOS $2,500 charge for any post they don't like

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Post by tenpies »

ilaksh wrote: post #41

The stuff that concerns me just as much as the policing of opinions is all the list of things requiring pre-approval. I have web applications that my customers pay for with cryptocurrency, sometimes use telemedicine or make an adult purchase. It seems like I am supposed to discuss all of my personal life and business ahead of time with PayPal and then I would still be just kind of hoping for good will.

The beauty of this (as far as US weaponization of law is concerned) is that yes, you are correct. But because there is functionally no customer service at Paypal, the Legal Department is customer service.

So to even talk to Paypal about these things you would have to spend thousands of dollars and several months.

And when you make a mistake in a way Paypal doesn't like, you'll be obliterated.

Those of us who grew or lived in the third world will recognize the current status of US law under Biden quite clearly: "For my friends, anything. For my enemies? The law!", it's just now extended down to the consumer ToS level.

Re: PayPal restores to its TOS $2,500 charge for any post they don't like

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Post by willsmith72 »

Test0129 wrote: post #43

This is neither shocking, nor new. A decade ago I remember a friend who had a small business selling some niche collectors items. One day, he was scammed. The guy reported that the package was never delivered and, without even investigating, Paypal banned my friend's account and awarded the buyer their money back. Paypal has always, and will always be a shit company. Charging people $2,500 for wrongthink is simply as…

I guess you're not in Europe. Paypal is huge here, especially in Germany. Has been useful for years here for free instant transactions without currency conversion fees (at least between some euro currencies)

Re: PayPal restores to its TOS $2,500 charge for any post they don't like

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Post by tenpies »

111111101101 wrote: post #39
Bellend wrote: post #14

I used to use paypal for everything but it occurred to me that I haven't used it since 2018. What niche does it support that direct payments don't? When I think of paypal, I think of delays.

I prefer to use PayPal to pay at random sites just because I'd rather not give my credit card number to a site that could be backdoored or even run by fraudsters. https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/18/fbi_credit_card/

I do the opposite. Paypal has no customer support and doesn't care about me or any other customer at all.

But I can call American Express, be instantly connected to an agent who at least pretends to care, doesn't sound like they're overworked, and will gladly put in the chargeback request for me. I can also do this online if I'm feeling less social that day.

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