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Video gaming may be associated with better cognitive performance in children

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Re: Video gaming may be associated with better cognitive performance in children

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I'll add the classic comment here: "correlation does not mean causation".

Maybe it's the kids with better cognitive performance that like videogame better. I wouldn't find that unlikely considering it's more mentally stimulating than other "real-world" activities.

Also, I personally learned to code by writing bots for an MMORPG, so I definitely owe my career to videogames.

Re: Video gaming may be associated with better cognitive performance in children

#222

I'll add the classic comment here: "correlation does not mean causation". Maybe it's the kids with better cognitive performance that like videogame better. I wouldn't find that unlikely considering it's more mentally stimulating than other "real-world" activities. Also, I personally learned to code by writing bots for an MMORPG, so I definitely owe my career to videogames.

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Re: Video gaming may be associated with better cognitive performance in children

#223

I'll add the classic comment here: "correlation does not mean causation". Maybe it's the kids with better cognitive performance that like videogame better. I wouldn't find that unlikely considering it's more mentally stimulating than other "real-world" activities. Also, I personally learned to code by writing bots for an MMORPG, so I definitely owe my career to videogames.

Causality also doesn't need to be unidirectional. Perhaps cognitive performance has an impact on video gaming, but video gaming likely also has some impact on cognitive performance.

Re: Video gaming may be associated with better cognitive performance in children

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Video games might improve cognitive abilities, but they also cheat the reward centers of your brain and offer the feeling of success while achieving none. Isn't that all games & sports? If you were achieving something they would call it a "job" not a "game".

What makes it a "job" is less about achieving something, and more about you becoming dependent on it. Like, I definitely achieved something playing Kerbal Space Program (at the very least, a much deeper understanding of kinematics and orbital mechanics), but it's still just a game, because I can stop playing it if I want to, and nothing bad happens. I can't do that with my job.

I was assuming that the person i was responding to's definition of "achieve something" was puting food on the table.

I generally agree that we can achieve and get value out of all sorts of things, including video games. Even spending an hour sitting quietly meditating is an achievement for many people. Life is what we make of it; value and beauty can be anywhere

Re: Video gaming may be associated with better cognitive performance in children

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post #49

I credit RuneScape with teaching me the value of delayed gratification and basic economics. I credit competitive Halo 3 with teaching me team building and strategy skills. I credit StarCraft with training my mind to travel at warp speed. Honestly. My video game experience was instrumental to my success so far in life. This is not surprising to me.

I credit eve online with teaching me how to run complex and effective counter intelligence operations but I've yet to use it in real life :(. On the other hand how to inspire people and the importance of operational doctrine has been massively important. Also spreadsheets..

EVE online taught me how CEO’s feel when one of their minions starts talking to them, and they have no idea who the person is, nor who hired them.

Also the value of realtime market information.

Re: Video gaming may be associated with better cognitive performance in children

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post #49

I credit RuneScape with teaching me the value of delayed gratification and basic economics. I credit competitive Halo 3 with teaching me team building and strategy skills. I credit StarCraft with training my mind to travel at warp speed. Honestly. My video game experience was instrumental to my success so far in life. This is not surprising to me.

I credit Age of Empires 2 for teaching me about managing an economy and medieval history. I credit Age of Wonders for teaching me what strategy really means. Lots of other great games helped me build my English skills, most of all The Legacy of Kain series.

I have a vague memory of playing ‘Uprising’ and having no idea what the flavor text on the screen said. Somehow I made it work.

Re: Video gaming may be associated with better cognitive performance in children

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post #49

I credit RuneScape with teaching me the value of delayed gratification and basic economics. I credit competitive Halo 3 with teaching me team building and strategy skills. I credit StarCraft with training my mind to travel at warp speed. Honestly. My video game experience was instrumental to my success so far in life. This is not surprising to me.

You should credit your parents with allowing you to have so much free time and good nutrition.

Re: Video gaming may be associated with better cognitive performance in children

#229

I'll add the classic comment here: "correlation does not mean causation". Maybe it's the kids with better cognitive performance that like videogame better. I wouldn't find that unlikely considering it's more mentally stimulating than other "real-world" activities. Also, I personally learned to code by writing bots for an MMORPG, so I definitely owe my career to videogames.

Causality also doesn't need to be unidirectional. Perhaps cognitive performance has an impact on video gaming, but video gaming likely also has some impact on cognitive performance.

I play Serious Sam to better focus on other tasks. I do so because I cannot walk long hours as I did before for exactly same purpose.

If you ask me, I'd better walk. But I can't.

PS

Walking releases brain-derived neurotrophic factor, playing FPS does not.

Re: Video gaming may be associated with better cognitive performance in children

#230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What games do you recommend for kids of that age?

Fun question! I would suggest the following (in no particular order), subject to the proviso that you do need to be sat next to them to help manage frustration, especially in the beginning (although my personal take is that they shouldn’t be left to play by themselves at all at that age) - particularly as they learn the controller, general video game conventions, and the specifics of each game: - Breath of the Wild -…

I also recommend the Switch to begin with. The one that can be hooked to a TV - children will throw stuff to the ground, by mistake or purposely. You'd rather have them throw the control pad instead of the full console.

While I love Breath of the Wild to the death, its combat is rather difficult and somewhat realistic from the start, which might be a turnoff ("scary monsters keep killing me"). It also has lots of written dialog, which may be challenging for a 4 year old. Definitively this one has to be played with an adult.

Super Mario Odyssey is a much better intro game for a 4-year old. It also has combat (complex combat, with all the "possessed enemy powers"), but it introduces all its mechanics extremely gradually (starts with one-attack button, on a safe environment, and builds up from there). The game works well without paying attention to the dialog at all. The cartoon looks is also more child-friendly. At 6 years old my son can do air tricks with Mario that I struggle to do. It is a jewel of a game.

Animal crossing is fun. I worry a bit about the "materialistic/accumulative" parts of it ("gotta have more stuff!" here's an ice-cream shop stand that does nothing) but the insect and fish collection things are great. Again it will require some reading in order to advance.

I have not played Slay the Spire myself. Isn't that too "brainy" for a 4yo?

Oh I forgot to mention: Picu-nicu is a great "my first platformer" game, definitively recommended.

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