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Signal says it won’t compromise on encryption

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Re: Signal says it won’t compromise on encryption

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Post by betwixthewires »

a-user-you-like wrote: post #8

Is there anything more secure than signal that is widely used? Maybe something that doesn’t leak metadata or require a phone number?

There's Briar, its peer to peer and pretty great.

XMPP/Jabber with OMEMO encryption, it runs on federating servers.

Session is a fork of signal that doesn't require phone numbers, there's some cryptocurrency something or other in there I don't quite get, but I don't believe you need it to send messages.

There's Tox, another p2p sort of thing.

Then there's threema, wire, and a bunch of others im not all that familiar with.

Re: Signal says it won’t compromise on encryption

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Post by hunglee2 »

Big govt vs big tech, a battle that is being played out all over the world.

Any country that value sovereignty and sees itself as an independent actor rather than a vassal state, must take the position India is taking, or else be susceptible to foreign owned apps influencing its citizenry. The only alternative would be to insist Signal hire its security agents into product / moderator roles, so that oversight can be conducted in more implicit ways.

Not great for the users, but the world where globalised technology makes everyone friends is over

Re: Signal says it won’t compromise on encryption

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Post by antikneejerk »

hummerbliss wrote: post #58
hummerbliss wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its was a proposed law (to solicit feedback). Signal is not exiting but would exit if such law comes to India. https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/govt-proposes-law-... But Telecom Authority of India rules out any immediate intervention. https://tech.hindustantimes.com/tech/news/trai-rules-out-reg... I couldn't quote from the article here but looks like they are going to wait till clarity emerges from Internati…

Proposed law draft (I hate that news outlets do not link to the law they discuss) https://dot.gov.in/sites/default/files/Draft%20Indian%20Tele...

Thanks

Re: Signal says it won’t compromise on encryption

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Post by polopo568866 »

gandutraveler wrote: post #48

I do want to hear more about how signal and other companies are working to prevent their apps being used by bad actors, terrorists.

I do want to hear more about how toll road management companies are working to prevent their roads being used by bad actors, terrorists.

Food manufacturers should also ensure that they are not contributing to feeding bad actors...

People like you being so easily manipulated by governments are extremely dangerous to democracy.

Re: Signal says it won’t compromise on encryption

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Post by dheera »

How can they exit India if they never entered it?

As long as they don't have a business entity there they can still keep running it, and it would be upto India to create a national firewall if they so wish to, otherwise their citizens would be able to still access Signal without any issues.

Re: Signal says it won’t compromise on encryption

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Post by pmalynin »

hunglee2 wrote: post #63

Big govt vs big tech, a battle that is being played out all over the world. Any country that value sovereignty and sees itself as an independent actor rather than a vassal state, must take the position India is taking, or else be susceptible to foreign owned apps influencing its citizenry. The only alternative would be to insist Signal hire its security agents into product / moderator roles, so that oversight can be…

I mean ok, but Signal is not big tech and provides orders of magnitude more positive value to society than say Facebook.

Re: Signal says it won’t compromise on encryption

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Post by kragen »

hunglee2 wrote: post #63

Big govt vs big tech, a battle that is being played out all over the world. Any country that value sovereignty and sees itself as an independent actor rather than a vassal state, must take the position India is taking, or else be susceptible to foreign owned apps influencing its citizenry. The only alternative would be to insist Signal hire its security agents into product / moderator roles, so that oversight can be…

> Big govt vs big tech

Signal has 40 employees.

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