Requiring handing over encryption keys as a requirement to do business there sounds like a good way to sanction yourself from the modern world.
Signal says it won’t compromise on encryption
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#12Reminder that Apple did this domestically for the FBI/iMessage. They intentionally maintain a backdoor in the end to end crypto of iMessage: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-fbi-icloud-exclusiv...
This is incorrect. iMessage is encrypted, the encryption is end-to-end, there are no backdoors. The unencrypted backup is a clear and annoying hole in the apple privacy story, but the non-e2ee iCloud backup does not include any messages (SMS, MMS, or iMessage), Contacts, Calendars, Notes, iCloud Photos, or health data. A local backup is local, and is protected by filesystem encryption on your local storage. So no, iM…
If my iPhone got run over by a truck, and I log in my apple ID to another iPhone, will I get my messages back?
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#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe not, imagine possession of such program is treated same way as a child pornography.
How popular would it be to treat people like pedos, just because of an app that they use?
This rhetoric is already applied against onion websites and similar decentralized networks.
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#14Why doesn't govt improve its own machinery instead of trying to spy on its citizens? Do they think this way they'll improve the society? Like China?
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe not, imagine possession of such program is treated same way as a child pornography.
How popular would it be to treat people like pedos, just because of an app that they use?
Probably not popular, but it would be really easy for the state to do it. All they need is their larger media outlets to make a few daytime TV story lines featuring these apps in their narratives, a couple big budget movies, some exaggerated "criminal activity" headlines in the major press. Next thing you know we get the next Satanic Scare.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is incorrect. iMessage is encrypted, the encryption is end-to-end, there are no backdoors. The unencrypted backup is a clear and annoying hole in the apple privacy story, but the non-e2ee iCloud backup does not include any messages (SMS, MMS, or iMessage), Contacts, Calendars, Notes, iCloud Photos, or health data. A local backup is local, and is protected by filesystem encryption on your local storage. So no, iM…
If my iPhone got run over by a truck, and I log in my apple ID to another iPhone, will I get my messages back?
Nope, unless you’re using iCloud backup, or your messages can be synced from other devices in the key ring.
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#17Proud of Signal’s stance on this!
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#18How is Signal tied to the region? What does it mean to “exit” India, exactly?
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe not, imagine possession of such program is treated same way as a child pornography.
How popular would it be to treat people like pedos, just because of an app that they use?
Easy. Make everyone think that you have to hide something or create a fake stories that pedos use app X.
> if you have nothing to hide, why don’t you show it?
Is also “nice” rhetoric that laymen agree with.
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#20How is Signal tied to the region? What does it mean to “exit” India, exactly?
App store, dns, routable ip-address.