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I Fell 15,000 Feet and Lived (2009)

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Re: I Fell 15,000 Feet and Lived (2009)

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The whole description is wordy but astonishing. It is strange that the part that strikes me the most though is this one: "The Coast Guard amphibian gained altitude and flew off. (I learned later that he headed for a squadron of minesweepers that was returning to the United States from a tour of the Western Pacific. He was unable to tune to their radio frequency for communications. But this ingenious pilot lowered a w…

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Re: I Fell 15,000 Feet and Lived (2009)

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This happened in 1963. Planes had only been flying for 60 years at that point; it really is pretty amazing how quickly we progressed on technology during those early years. We still fly 737s, which are descended from a design that first flew in 1967. As well as the C130, which was part of this story. And don't get me started on B-52s, which are even older. We have made great strides since then, of course, but it does…

The progress of aviation technology fascinates me. We went from the wright flyer to the B-52 in just 50 years and then in the next 70 years went from the B-52 to... pretty much still the B-52 (at least in terms of payload/range/airspeed). You could probably come up with something similar to Moore's law for for those stats over those first 50 years. Makes me wonder if/when computing will reach a similar plateau. It's…

We basically built towards a local maximum of what's physically possible for fossil-fuel powered sub-sonic aircraft; we also pushed into super-sonic, but the efficiency and noise pretty much preclude that for all but military and niche commercial operations.

However, there have been huge improvements in other areas, like efficiency and safety. Take a look at this fatal accident charts, and remember that aviation usage has been growing in the meantime, so rates per passenger and per passenger mile have been improving even more than this shows.

https://aviation-safety.net/graphics/infographics/Fatal-Acci...

Re: I Fell 15,000 Feet and Lived (2009)

#114

Still not as impressive as Vesna Vulovic, a flight attendant who holds the Guinness world record for surviving the highest fall without a parachute: 10,160 m (33,330 ft; 6.31 mi) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vesna_Vulovi%C4%87

Terminal velocity is terminal velocity, so the speed at which you fall tops out relative to altitude pretty quickly Water is basically concrete at terminal velocity. I'm not an expert, but I wouldn't be surprised if he survived because he fell into the water at the location of his plane, which was emitting bubbles that break the surface tension and make water safer to fall into

My guess is it is very unlikely he hit where the plane did. More likely the rough sea and high swells created the turbulence needed.

Re: I Fell 15,000 Feet and Lived (2009)

#115

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Wow.. so much bad luck (the original failure, ejection failure, parachute failure) countered by that much luck (not hitting the plane during "manual" eject, not bleeding to death because havin his spleen removed 4 years earlier) ..amazing unbelievable story with some good end :)

i didn't understand something. he said impact with the plane tail will usually kill someone during a manual eject, but why? the plane and the person are going at the same speed at first?

Imagine pushing a balloon out of your car window while driving on the highway and taking your foot off the accelerator. It doesn't float outside the window beside you, but it comes to a stop almost in an instant.

Re: I Fell 15,000 Feet and Lived (2009)

#116

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I think your response was sarcastic but I actually fully agree - yes language changes, cultural & social norms change. Today in 2022, based on average of media creation & consumption, this article is wordy (or "long form", if we feel "wordy" is loaded with negative connotation:). It would not have been wordy in different times & places. I like long form. I like essays and articles and geeking out and getting in depth…

I want to believe that there is still an audience for long form. Besides, great debates can't be carried out with 20-word pieces. Long form blogs of the web 1.0 were instrumental for the tech environment we have today. I would say that "you want to make articles as short as possible, but not shorter" [0] [0] https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/374887/meaning-o...

I feel there's perception that by labeling this article as "wordy", I have also made far more reaching implicit claims such as

* Wordy is bad

* There's no room in this world for wordy/long-form

* I am a proponent of 20-word Facebook posts, they are awesome and a pinnacle of human achievement and we should all use them going forward

I have not made such a claim in the initial post and have made substantial effort to explicitly indicate thusly since. Lord knows nobody ever labeled me as "succinct" :-D

My old co-worker had a term "We are in violent agreement", and I feel that's what's happening here :->

Re: I Fell 15,000 Feet and Lived (2009)

#117

Reminds me of a web page I stumbled upon many years ago. It was very much visually designed in the 90s style. The whole page was dedicated to tips and tricks for surviving falls from very high distances. I only remember 3 points: * For most of the fall, try to spread out like a flying squirrel to reduce your terminal velocity. * As you get close to the ground, rotate to take the impact primarily on your feet and legs…

> As you get close to the ground, rotate to take the impact primarily on your feet and legs.

That makes it sound a lot easier than it actually is.

Re: I Fell 15,000 Feet and Lived (2009)

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It's why it was pretty brilliant that he skewed the plane.

"Rolled" :)

Sounds more like a combination of pitch and yaw: "I trimmed the aircraft to fly in a kind of sidelong skid: nose high and with the tail swung around slightly to the right"

Re: I Fell 15,000 Feet and Lived (2009)

#119

Did the parachute not simply open before he landed in the water? He can't remember that part, and he only woke up after the parachute was under water and yanking on him. Either way, refreshing to see a well written piece.

The closed parachute acted as a streamer, slowing him down enough to cause only severe injury on a water landing.

Had the parachute opened, an unconscious water landing would not have caused such injuries. That would only happen at speed.

Am a licensed skydiver.

Re: I Fell 15,000 Feet and Lived (2009)

#120

Still not as impressive as Vesna Vulovic, a flight attendant who holds the Guinness world record for surviving the highest fall without a parachute: 10,160 m (33,330 ft; 6.31 mi) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vesna_Vulovi%C4%87

I imagine at 10s of thousands of feet, you're hitting terminal velocity easily, and the extra 20000 feet is an advantage in that you have more time to prepare for landing.
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