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Re: Pixar almost deleted Toy Story 2 (2012)

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Related: A baby saved ‘Toy Story 2’ from near complete deletion (2021) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30330740 - Feb 2022 (121 comments) Toy Story 2 files wiped by accident, restored thanks to work-from-home employee - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23022717 - April 2020 (2 comments) How Pixar’s Toy Story 2 was deleted twice (2012) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20271179 - June 2019 (2 comments)…

I used to flag duplicates from the new page, but realized it goes nowhere. Maybe a different flag to downgrade dupes?

Re: Pixar almost deleted Toy Story 2 (2012)

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I remember learning that when Pixar did a pan-and-scan version of one of their movies, they wouldn't just use a floating 4:3 frame over the 16:9 original -- they'd re-render the movie, moving items around as necessary, to get a better framing. The perfectionism was palpable when we'd meet with them.

Re: Pixar almost deleted Toy Story 2 (2012)

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Related: A baby saved ‘Toy Story 2’ from near complete deletion (2021) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30330740 - Feb 2022 (121 comments) Toy Story 2 files wiped by accident, restored thanks to work-from-home employee - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23022717 - April 2020 (2 comments) How Pixar’s Toy Story 2 was deleted twice (2012) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20271179 - June 2019 (2 comments)…

I used to flag duplicates from the new page, but realized it goes nowhere. Maybe a different flag to downgrade dupes?

Yes please.

This is hardly news, even if it prompts discussion, most of it is repeating the same discussion from all the previous discussions

Re: Pixar almost deleted Toy Story 2 (2012)

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More details on Quora: https://www.quora.com/Pixar-company/Did-Pixar-accidentally-d... The ending is sad -- that intrepid recovery mostly didn't end up used: And then, some months later, Pixar rewrote the film from almost the ground up, and we made Toy Story 2 again. That rewritten film was the one you saw in theatres and that you can watch now on Blu-Ray.

Considering how good Toy Story 2 was, "sad" is an odd way of putting it, unless you're talking about the ensuing crunch. There are a few more details about that side of the story elsewhere: https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/... https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/toy-story-2-disasters-almos...

The sad part is that the thing they saved didn't actually get used and was just thrown out. So it wasn't exactly the big save it's made up to be. But if it wasn't framed as a big save maybe it wouldn't be posted every week or so.

Re: Pixar almost deleted Toy Story 2 (2012)

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More details on Quora: https://www.quora.com/Pixar-company/Did-Pixar-accidentally-d... The ending is sad -- that intrepid recovery mostly didn't end up used: And then, some months later, Pixar rewrote the film from almost the ground up, and we made Toy Story 2 again. That rewritten film was the one you saw in theatres and that you can watch now on Blu-Ray.

I think we made How to Train Your Dragon three times at DreamWorks. So many rewrites, director changes, character redesign, etc. If you ever wonder why a feature length animated film can cost over $300 million dollars, this is one reason.

In college I remember hearing from one of my animation professors that DreamWorks switched between NURBS and polygons for How To Train Your Dragon, I'm unsure which direction it was but I don't envy the artists tasked with that if true.

Re: Pixar almost deleted Toy Story 2 (2012)

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Related: A baby saved ‘Toy Story 2’ from near complete deletion (2021) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30330740 - Feb 2022 (121 comments) Toy Story 2 files wiped by accident, restored thanks to work-from-home employee - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23022717 - April 2020 (2 comments) How Pixar’s Toy Story 2 was deleted twice (2012) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20271179 - June 2019 (2 comments)…

I used to flag duplicates from the new page, but realized it goes nowhere. Maybe a different flag to downgrade dupes?

I kind of wonder if deduping posts would be good. I find it really annoying to see reposts and if definitely makes it feel like there really isn't all that much content out there, at least much content that has enough viral potential. I suppose it's possible for a company to fingerprint content easily enough to stop dupes. Maybe it would block the post but allow a repost of the original content? But is that really good for the company? Plenty of people haven't seen that content anyway, so maybe it's working for those people, and sometimes you do want to see the repost if it's been long enough. I personally think it might just seize the entire ecosystem if you prevented it because the volume of content would go down, and the vitality of things would go down too. Not to mention the people reposting are kind of keeping the whole thing alive for their virtual points, and if they can't do it at scale by posting the same video in 20 different places anymore things might just stop. I feel like a lot of social networks are relying on a an orbiting cloud of garbage that just recirculates constantly. I'm surprised no one has started uploading, upscaling and posting America's Funniest Home Videos clips.

Re: Pixar almost deleted Toy Story 2 (2012)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to flag duplicates from the new page, but realized it goes nowhere. Maybe a different flag to downgrade dupes?

I kind of wonder if deduping posts would be good. I find it really annoying to see reposts and if definitely makes it feel like there really isn't all that much content out there, at least much content that has enough viral potential. I suppose it's possible for a company to fingerprint content easily enough to stop dupes. Maybe it would block the post but allow a repost of the original content? But is that really go…

I don't think people are karma farming here. They're just too new and/or don't recall when certain posts have been on HN before.

Dang has a pretty good list of links that keep showing up every 90-180 days on a continual basis (e.g. "The Story of Mel")

Re: Pixar almost deleted Toy Story 2 (2012)

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More details on Quora: https://www.quora.com/Pixar-company/Did-Pixar-accidentally-d... The ending is sad -- that intrepid recovery mostly didn't end up used: And then, some months later, Pixar rewrote the film from almost the ground up, and we made Toy Story 2 again. That rewritten film was the one you saw in theatres and that you can watch now on Blu-Ray.

This seems to be par for the course for Pixar. I remember many of the deleted scenes from the Inside Out DVD were prefaced with explanation from Pixar that they were from a much earlier draft. They realized after working through the first draft that they now had a much better understanding of the characters, and then rewrote the narrative to match.

Re: Pixar almost deleted Toy Story 2 (2012)

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More details on Quora: https://www.quora.com/Pixar-company/Did-Pixar-accidentally-d... The ending is sad -- that intrepid recovery mostly didn't end up used: And then, some months later, Pixar rewrote the film from almost the ground up, and we made Toy Story 2 again. That rewritten film was the one you saw in theatres and that you can watch now on Blu-Ray.

I think we made How to Train Your Dragon three times at DreamWorks. So many rewrites, director changes, character redesign, etc. If you ever wonder why a feature length animated film can cost over $300 million dollars, this is one reason.

Oh you worked on How to Train Your Dragon? That's my favourite movie in the world!

Really random follow up question - there's a How to Train Your Dragon advert that I assume played before the first film in cinemas, advertising the cinema's popcorn and other concessions, but the only two copies on YouTube are in really terrible quality. (one in English https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f37fI14Ne0I, the other in Finnish I think https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0Hr4mD3G1Q). I really really want a high quality version of this, and I'm wondering if you know of anyone at DreamWorks who I can contact about this? I've tried tweeting at a couple of people but unsurprisingly heard nothing back, so I'm maybe looking for someone in marketing?

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