I remember someone told me that Swede has open tax record as well. Is it the case?
The only way of being anonymous in Sweden is illegal?
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Re: The only way of being anonymous in Sweden is illegal?
#62I don't think this is true. You can apply for "Skyddade personuppgifter" (Protected personal data) which means your details won't be publicly viewable. Here is the documentation from the police: https://polisen.se/utsatt-for-brott/hjalp-och-stod-fran-samh... and here is the details from the tax agency: https://www.skatteverket.se/foretagochorganisationer/myndigh... I know bunch of other people who have protected iden…
The article covers that
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#63Initial reaction: WTF?!
The more I think about it though, the more I'm aligned with the idea — except the home address part, that's just mental and dangerous.
So all your details like salary, social security number, etc. are public. What's the end result? For me, nothing. I _could_ care less, but not by much.
I know people get all worked up about things like their social security number being exposed, "because fraud!", but really? How? They'd go somewhere and try to open a bank account or something with your details? Without an government approved ID?
On the other hand, I can see a lot of good coming from this level of transparency. So much crap is possible due to secrecy being the norm. It's like how at work you're expected not to share your salary with co-workers, but the C-levels know how much you get paid. Same thing in society; we're expected not to share information with each other, but the government knows everything. Put it all out in the open and let's see what floats.
Re: The only way of being anonymous in Sweden is illegal?
#64I don't think this is true. You can apply for "Skyddade personuppgifter" (Protected personal data) which means your details won't be publicly viewable. Here is the documentation from the police: https://polisen.se/utsatt-for-brott/hjalp-och-stod-fran-samh... and here is the details from the tax agency: https://www.skatteverket.se/foretagochorganisationer/myndigh... I know bunch of other people who have protected iden…
I applied for this after getting multiple threats from a stalker and I got denied.
Do you know who the stalker is? Strike first, the Varg way.
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#65"This system was built and created for a different time where criminality was pretty much absent in Sweden" When was this golden age of (almost) no crime, I wonder?
Could be now just look at the common crime-free days in Singapore.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/981486/crime-free-days-s...
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#66Anonymity is not the same as not having a public address associated to your name.
One can well be anonymous in numerous different contexts even with the above mentioned data available publicly.
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#67"This system was built and created for a different time where criminality was pretty much absent in Sweden" When was this golden age of (almost) no crime, I wonder?
Maybe 35-40 years ago. My grandmother never locked her door when she was at home, for example, even in 2020, because she'd lived so long in society as it was that she literally couldn't believe that it could end up as it had; and this wasn't due to stupidity. It was actually safe and normal once.
Do you mean when she wasn't home? Or is it customary to lock you're home even when you're home now?
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
Only if you compare wildly different statistics without context. During the years 2013-2017, Sweden averaged 64 reported rapes per 100,000 inhabitants—a rate that tied for the highest in Europe. However, when the data was examined, it became clear that Sweden's high numbers were fueled in large part by Sweden's broader definition of rape and more inclusive reporting rules compared to other European countries. When th…
That still would make it the third-highest in Europe, only behind Belgium and Norway. It would still be 50% higher than Germany and over four times somewhere like Spain.
That was only correcting for the definition between those 2 countries. It says nothing about what percentage of rapes get reported in each country or how other European countries define things.
In the end it’s easy to compare numbers, it much harder to get at the underlying truth.
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#69I knew a software engineer who used to live in sweden. One day he had a payraise. Out of the blue his landlord raised his rent. Apparently she somehow found out about his payraise and now i know how. She even told him that she knows he can afford more. He left sweden for this reason and racism. Before you believe all them nice stories about scandinavia, be sure to talk to people that lived in any of those countries a…
Sounds like a bad, private landlord not affiliated with landlord associations. If the landlord was affiliated, this would be a breakage of agreement and the tenant union organization [0] could help, drive the case against the landlord.
Re: The only way of being anonymous in Sweden is illegal?
#70Initial reaction: WTF?! The more I think about it though, the more I'm aligned with the idea — except the home address part, that's just mental and dangerous. So all your details like salary, social security number, etc. are public. What's the end result? For me, nothing. I _could_ care less, but not by much. I know people get all worked up about things like their social security number being exposed, "because fraud!…
> So all your details like salary, social security number, etc. are public. What's the end result? For me, nothing. I _could_ care less, but not by much.
I'm pretty sure my antisocial neighbor would consider robbing me if he knew my net worth.