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U.S. mortgage interest rates jump to 7.16%, highest since 2001

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Re: U.S. mortgage interest rates jump to 7.16%, highest since 2001

#21
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This will pressure prices down presumably which is a good thing for cash buyers but basically no one else.

Why only cash buyers? Even if I am borrowing money to pay for something, I would rather pay less than more.

This is correct, you will pay more to service the loan but only until you can refinance it. If you pay more in a low interest rate regime you have no way to improve your situation, and no way to sell if you need to.

Re: U.S. mortgage interest rates jump to 7.16%, highest since 2001

#23
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If rates go from a low of 2% up to, say, 9%, then in order to keep the mortgage payment the same, the price of a $400,000 house would have to drop to around $230,000. This assumes a 30-year fixed rate mortgage, and the details will vary depending on money down, etc. but the basic fact remains that house prices will need to fall by a lot, down to levels of 5 years ago or more, before the current interest rate hiking c…

A lot of people simply won't sell in that situation which is going to further constrain supply.

I hear this every cycle, but people forget even if the person who bought high won't, their neighbor who bought low (maybe a long time ago) will.

And a lot of people end up having to sell.

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#24

If rates go from a low of 2% up to, say, 9%, then in order to keep the mortgage payment the same, the price of a $400,000 house would have to drop to around $230,000. This assumes a 30-year fixed rate mortgage, and the details will vary depending on money down, etc. but the basic fact remains that house prices will need to fall by a lot, down to levels of 5 years ago or more, before the current interest rate hiking c…

People would just rent instead of buying house. Rent should not go down that much. So buyers with cash will just buy houses and rent it out.

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#25
post #5

This will pressure prices down presumably which is a good thing for cash buyers but basically no one else.

I would think this could help with people trying to buy their first place.

I think a fair amount of people - particularly those in HCOL cities - could afford monthly payments that are on the high side, but saving for a 20% deposit has been more difficult because of how high prices have been (ie, stuck in a rent cycle of only saving a bit because of how high rent is and so on).

Re: U.S. mortgage interest rates jump to 7.16%, highest since 2001

#26
post #17

If rates go from a low of 2% up to, say, 9%, then in order to keep the mortgage payment the same, the price of a $400,000 house would have to drop to around $230,000. This assumes a 30-year fixed rate mortgage, and the details will vary depending on money down, etc. but the basic fact remains that house prices will need to fall by a lot, down to levels of 5 years ago or more, before the current interest rate hiking c…

A lot of people simply won't sell in that situation which is going to further constrain supply.

This is another thing people don't consider: housing is priced at the margin. One house has to sell in the neighborhood because of divorce / death / etc, and boom you have the one comp that everything else is tied to.

Even if they stay in their home, people over-levered on their fake housing equity through HELOCs are in trouble.

Re: U.S. mortgage interest rates jump to 7.16%, highest since 2001

#27
post #17

If rates go from a low of 2% up to, say, 9%, then in order to keep the mortgage payment the same, the price of a $400,000 house would have to drop to around $230,000. This assumes a 30-year fixed rate mortgage, and the details will vary depending on money down, etc. but the basic fact remains that house prices will need to fall by a lot, down to levels of 5 years ago or more, before the current interest rate hiking c…

A lot of people simply won't sell in that situation which is going to further constrain supply.

There isn’t a supply issue. There is a corporations buying property issue.

Re: U.S. mortgage interest rates jump to 7.16%, highest since 2001

#28
post #23
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of people simply won't sell in that situation which is going to further constrain supply.

I hear this every cycle, but people forget even if the person who bought high won't, their neighbor who bought low (maybe a long time ago) will. And a lot of people end up having to sell.

And dropping prices mean that someone who's been holding out over the last few years of insane price growth might finally find a home elsewhere that they can afford.

As someone who was too young to climb aboard the price bubble of the last 5 years: here's hoping.

Re: U.S. mortgage interest rates jump to 7.16%, highest since 2001

#29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why only cash buyers? Even if I am borrowing money to pay for something, I would rather pay less than more.

This is correct, you will pay more to service the loan but only until you can refinance it. If you pay more in a low interest rate regime you have no way to improve your situation, and no way to sell if you need to.

Yes, I would rather pay usurious rates with a commensurately low price. Even though it would be terrible basically having the vast majority of my monthly payment going purely to interest for a long time, it's possible to:

- refi at a lower rate in the future

- sell the house without having to take a huge loss compared to low-% bagholders

Re: U.S. mortgage interest rates jump to 7.16%, highest since 2001

#30
post #5

This will pressure prices down presumably which is a good thing for cash buyers but basically no one else.

Why only cash buyers? Even if I am borrowing money to pay for something, I would rather pay less than more.

Because you would theoretically be paying the same amount, just paying it as interest instead of principal. It's not practically that big of a deal, but it does mean you would have less equity. If you had to sell it, you would get much less back, and you might have more taxable gain if you don't qualify for §121 exclusion.
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