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The only way of being anonymous in Sweden is illegal?

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Re: The only way of being anonymous in Sweden is illegal?

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Post by flakeoil »

yrgulation wrote: post #27

I knew a software engineer who used to live in sweden. One day he had a payraise. Out of the blue his landlord raised his rent. Apparently she somehow found out about his payraise and now i know how. She even told him that she knows he can afford more. He left sweden for this reason and racism. Before you believe all them nice stories about scandinavia, be sure to talk to people that lived in any of those countries a…

A landlord in Sweden cannot increase the rent out of the blue. If there is a rental contract in place at least. If renting without a contract for some weird reason, well, you better be sure you rent from someone you trust. Like in most other countries I would expect.

Re: The only way of being anonymous in Sweden is illegal?

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Post by muaytimbo »

JoachimS wrote: post #44
thrown_22 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not OP. But asking the government to give you back privacy seems the worst of all possible worlds. The people who need it the most are usually the people the Swedish government wants dead, e.g. Assange.

"The people who need it the most are usually the people the Swedish government wants dead," Citation very much needed. Both on the claims that the Swedish government actually want people dead. And that this would need this protection _usually_ are in this category. There are literally thousands of people that has this protection. 14000 women has this, commonly to protect them against an abusive partner (not the gover…

If thousands of people need this every year (and the bar to getting it is low as you say) why is privacy not the default? Wouldn't that be easier?

Re: The only way of being anonymous in Sweden is illegal?

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Post by mminer237 »

Retric wrote: post #34
thrown_22 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Only if you compare wildly different statistics without context. During the years 2013-2017, Sweden averaged 64 reported rapes per 100,000 inhabitants—a rate that tied for the highest in Europe. However, when the data was examined, it became clear that Sweden's high numbers were fueled in large part by Sweden's broader definition of rape and more inclusive reporting rules compared to other European countries. When th…

That still would make it the third-highest in Europe, only behind Belgium and Norway. It would still be 50% higher than Germany and over four times somewhere like Spain.

Re: The only way of being anonymous in Sweden is illegal?

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Post by JoachimS »

FpUser wrote: post #40

>"You see, in Sweden all citizens are required to have a physical street address connected to your social security number." What about homeless?

So there is a formal law stating that all citizens need (should, is expected to) have an address. But of course not everybody has an address registered. By choice or other reasons.

If you don't it doesn't mean you get arrested, thrown in jail. It is just a requirement for a lot of things in the public services to work in general. The social services for example are pretty good at handling, solving issues like these when you are homeless.

Re: The only way of being anonymous in Sweden is illegal?

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Post by JoachimS »

m_eiman wrote: post #50
FpUser wrote: post #40

>"You see, in Sweden all citizens are required to have a physical street address connected to your social security number." What about homeless?

I've heard that they're given the address of the local municipality main office, but I'm not sure how correct that is.

Or possible relatives, friends. Churches and other organizations also help out.

Re: The only way of being anonymous in Sweden is illegal?

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Post by CapitalTntcls »

iveqy wrote: post #49

I was biking in the northern Sweden and stopping by a restaurant. I left my luggage on my unlocked bike outside while going in for lunch for an hour. Nothing strange about that, why would anyone steal a bike? Noone locked their bikes! Instead of saying openess is bad, let's say what kind of society you would like to live in and then work towards it. Personally I would rather not have a bike lock, nor door lock.

Try doing that in Malmö.

Re: The only way of being anonymous in Sweden is illegal?

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Post by JoachimS »

blodkorv wrote: post #4
noasaservice wrote: post #2

This sounds like it would be great for an embarrassment campaign of tracking all politicians and C-levels responsible for this. Basically, it's the elonjet all over again. If showing the data is legal, then highlighting specific datapoints should be as well.

The ones responsible for this would not really care if you highlighted them.

Actually they often do. It is not that uncommom that politicians, government workers etc quit or get fired when embarrasing things are exposed. Esp if it relates to making personal economic gains from the position one has.

Re: The only way of being anonymous in Sweden is illegal?

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Post by yrgulation »

flakeoil wrote: post #51
yrgulation wrote: post #27

I knew a software engineer who used to live in sweden. One day he had a payraise. Out of the blue his landlord raised his rent. Apparently she somehow found out about his payraise and now i know how. She even told him that she knows he can afford more. He left sweden for this reason and racism. Before you believe all them nice stories about scandinavia, be sure to talk to people that lived in any of those countries a…

A landlord in Sweden cannot increase the rent out of the blue. If there is a rental contract in place at least. If renting without a contract for some weird reason, well, you better be sure you rent from someone you trust. Like in most other countries I would expect.

Probably raised at renewal. Deflecting the issue really doesnt help. My advice stands - people should exercise due diligence before moving to that country.

Re: The only way of being anonymous in Sweden is illegal?

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Post by impossiblefork »

m_eiman wrote: post #8

"This system was built and created for a different time where criminality was pretty much absent in Sweden" When was this golden age of (almost) no crime, I wonder?

Maybe 35-40 years ago.

My grandmother never locked her door when she was at home, for example, even in 2020, because she'd lived so long in society as it was that she literally couldn't believe that it could end up as it had; and this wasn't due to stupidity. It was actually safe and normal once.

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