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The only way of being anonymous in Sweden is illegal?

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Re: The only way of being anonymous in Sweden is illegal?

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I don't think this is true. You can apply for "Skyddade personuppgifter" (Protected personal data) which means your details won't be publicly viewable. Here is the documentation from the police: https://polisen.se/utsatt-for-brott/hjalp-och-stod-fran-samh... and here is the details from the tax agency: https://www.skatteverket.se/foretagochorganisationer/myndigh... I know bunch of other people who have protected iden…

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Re: The only way of being anonymous in Sweden is illegal?

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This sounds like it would be great for an embarrassment campaign of tracking all politicians and C-levels responsible for this. Basically, it's the elonjet all over again. If showing the data is legal, then highlighting specific datapoints should be as well.

I have insight into this to say that the politicians (and police) are already embarrassed about this, but it's exceptionally tricky to fix because they're hiding behind a key precept in the Swedish constitution.

Re: The only way of being anonymous in Sweden is illegal?

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post #3

Almost as interesting, you can (as I understand it) look up the current salary of anyone you want to. Though in doing so they will be notified that you have done so.

They'd be notified that someone looked it up unless you buy the entire full set of data for the entire county / country, as it contains a bunch of people all together then. Also, in the notification they receive, only which service was used will be mentioned and not exactly who did it.

So you can still lookup how much your co-workers earn without them knowing you asked for. But generally people are open with how much they earn, so it's really not an issue.

Re: The only way of being anonymous in Sweden is illegal?

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post #4

This sounds like it would be great for an embarrassment campaign of tracking all politicians and C-levels responsible for this. Basically, it's the elonjet all over again. If showing the data is legal, then highlighting specific datapoints should be as well.

The ones responsible for this would not really care if you highlighted them.

Yes, it is time we moved away from the idea that the politicians and captains of industry responsible for things we don't like can be embarrassed into changing their ways, if they had any shame they wouldn't be part of this in the first place.

Re: The only way of being anonymous in Sweden is illegal?

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One of the "pranks" we play on expats moving to Sweden is to look them up on hitta.se, take a screenshot and send it back to them saying "this you?". They always freak out and with reason, these sites contain an obscene amount of personal information about you. Some of them even give you people's salary history, which is slightly harder to obtain but also totally legal.

The weirdest thing I thought is that most Swedes don't think this is weird. Even if the country is overall safe I can think of a trillion ways in which you could ruin someone's life with this data.

Re: The only way of being anonymous in Sweden is illegal?

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post #6

I don't think this is true. You can apply for "Skyddade personuppgifter" (Protected personal data) which means your details won't be publicly viewable. Here is the documentation from the police: https://polisen.se/utsatt-for-brott/hjalp-och-stod-fran-samh... and here is the details from the tax agency: https://www.skatteverket.se/foretagochorganisationer/myndigh... I know bunch of other people who have protected iden…

This is true, my partner is a social worker and applied for this. It works.

Re: The only way of being anonymous in Sweden is illegal?

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post #8

"This system was built and created for a different time where criminality was pretty much absent in Sweden" When was this golden age of (almost) no crime, I wonder?

I’m sure this is alluding to the common anti-immigration sentiment, where all crime is blamed on refugees that are constantly othered and hated.

Re: The only way of being anonymous in Sweden is illegal?

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post #18
post #8

"This system was built and created for a different time where criminality was pretty much absent in Sweden" When was this golden age of (almost) no crime, I wonder?

I’m sure this is alluding to the common anti-immigration sentiment, where all crime is blamed on refugees that are constantly othered and hated.

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