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Re: No New Streaming Services Will Launch in 2022

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Post by dylan604 »

magic_hamster wrote: post #5

I feel bad for Netflix. They pioneered this market segment and now it reached saturation, people are getting tired of streaming fragmentation, their content took a turn for the worse and we are slowly and surely marching towards the next "Netflix of Streaming Services", which is basically Cable over IP. I wonder of Netflix could have done anything to keep being so far ahead and offer content from so many other compan…

I find it ironically funny that VOD's panacea of watching anything at anytime just by browsing for what you want has turned into a nightmarish hellscape of horrible browsing experiences to the point of people just giving up and choosing something for the sake of no longer browsing. So much so, the popularity of linearly programmed streaming channels is on the rise. Here's a channel that plays a specific genre of content that can be tuned in at anytime and just watch without a 20min search. What was old is new again, but on a computer and no rabbit ears.

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Post by rtkwe »

vardump wrote: post #2

The more fragmented the streaming services get, the more attractive piracy becomes.

That's the real irony of the situation. Paying just a bit a month to not break the law and have easy access to good quality streams was amazingly attractive. Now the tech is more accessible and everyone wants to own their own piece of that revenue instead of renting their content out. That fracturing though is recreating a very similar situation to the height of piracy though where it's every expensive to get access to all the media you might want to watch.

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Post by Bombthecat »

fny wrote: post #6
magic_hamster wrote: post #5

I feel bad for Netflix. They pioneered this market segment and now it reached saturation, people are getting tired of streaming fragmentation, their content took a turn for the worse and we are slowly and surely marching towards the next "Netflix of Streaming Services", which is basically Cable over IP. I wonder of Netflix could have done anything to keep being so far ahead and offer content from so many other compan…

Why feel bad? Competition is a good thing. They enjoyed the ride while they could, now they need to fight to win.

Its not competition.

Its a license war

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Post by rtkwe »

echelon wrote: post #7
magic_hamster wrote: post #5

I feel bad for Netflix. They pioneered this market segment and now it reached saturation, people are getting tired of streaming fragmentation, their content took a turn for the worse and we are slowly and surely marching towards the next "Netflix of Streaming Services", which is basically Cable over IP. I wonder of Netflix could have done anything to keep being so far ahead and offer content from so many other compan…

Netflix should have bought out NBC, CBS/Paramount, Discovery, or (most significantly) HBO/WB. Or even just their perpetual streaming rights back in the 00's. Letting Discovery acquire WB was one of the biggest mistakes they've ever made. Just imagine if Netflix had the HBO and WB slate. Game of Thrones, all of DC, Cartoon Network... HBO has the superior content lineup, and they let that slide through their fingers. T…

The real question is would HBO have made the same amazing content under Netflix as it has under Warner? Netflix can't just bank on acquiring old media forever they need to also create new shows. Hopefully HBO continues to be great under Discovery.

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Post by isk517 »

vardump wrote: post #2

The more fragmented the streaming services get, the more attractive piracy becomes.

Then when enough business is lost to pirating company's will start pushing for pointless laws to stop pirating because as we all know pirating is purely the result of people not wanting to pay and has not to do with the free thing providing better quality and greater convenience. Eventually some brilliant person will come up the idea of not making the consumers life difficult and the whole cycle will start again.

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Post by bcrosby95 »

magic_hamster wrote: post #5

I feel bad for Netflix. They pioneered this market segment and now it reached saturation, people are getting tired of streaming fragmentation, their content took a turn for the worse and we are slowly and surely marching towards the next "Netflix of Streaming Services", which is basically Cable over IP. I wonder of Netflix could have done anything to keep being so far ahead and offer content from so many other compan…

> I wonder of Netflix could have done anything to keep being so far ahead and offer content from so many other companies, or was it always doomed to last just a few years before everyone and their grandma started a streaming service.

It was always doomed. There's only so far you can go with streaming services from a tech POV. Once you have a system that's fairly reliable at delivering the content, it's the content that matters, not the tech.

Re: No New Streaming Services Will Launch in 2022

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Post by dylan604 »

echelon wrote: post #7
magic_hamster wrote: post #5

I feel bad for Netflix. They pioneered this market segment and now it reached saturation, people are getting tired of streaming fragmentation, their content took a turn for the worse and we are slowly and surely marching towards the next "Netflix of Streaming Services", which is basically Cable over IP. I wonder of Netflix could have done anything to keep being so far ahead and offer content from so many other compan…

Netflix should have bought out NBC, CBS/Paramount, Discovery, or (most significantly) HBO/WB. Or even just their perpetual streaming rights back in the 00's. Letting Discovery acquire WB was one of the biggest mistakes they've ever made. Just imagine if Netflix had the HBO and WB slate. Game of Thrones, all of DC, Cartoon Network... HBO has the superior content lineup, and they let that slide through their fingers. T…

> Or their perpetual streaming rights.

You say this as if these rights were ever available for purchase. The studios are not dumb. They had the luxury of seeing what happened to the music industry. It was obvious that with the success of Netflix that streaming was the way forward. They also realized they were no where near capable of doing it on their own. When Netflix was first starting the streaming side, studios were still in the process of converting film assets into clean digital video. Streaming wasn't even a thought yet. However, monetize what you already have on the platform available now, and then do you're own thing later to keep all the profits.

Being the first is always harder than being the next as the trail has already be blazed for you. Studios had the blue print laid out by Netflix, but not all of them are as competent, and those issues show from app to app.

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Post by CharlesW »

vardump wrote: post #2

The more fragmented the streaming services get, the more attractive piracy becomes.

Personally, I'd prefer frictionless fragmentation to centralization. I'm never going to subscribe to Paramount+ (or Whatever+) to see one or two shows I'm interested in, but I'd gladly pay $3-5 to stream a season of Star Trek: Discovery. If there's also a Paramount+ bundle that includes all of their original and licensed content, that's fine too.

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Post by echelon »

rtkwe wrote: post #14
echelon wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Netflix should have bought out NBC, CBS/Paramount, Discovery, or (most significantly) HBO/WB. Or even just their perpetual streaming rights back in the 00's. Letting Discovery acquire WB was one of the biggest mistakes they've ever made. Just imagine if Netflix had the HBO and WB slate. Game of Thrones, all of DC, Cartoon Network... HBO has the superior content lineup, and they let that slide through their fingers. T…

The real question is would HBO have made the same amazing content under Netflix as it has under Warner? Netflix can't just bank on acquiring old media forever they need to also create new shows. Hopefully HBO continues to be great under Discovery.

Probably not, because Netflix content leadership sucks.

But the Discovery boss recently claimed he wants more "comfort" programming than "destination tv", and that's a horrible sign. It signals they're leaning into more Honey Boo Boo and Ice Road Truckers-type content instead of Game of Thrones, Euphoria, Silicon Valley because it's cheaper to make.

Re: No New Streaming Services Will Launch in 2022

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Post by 1123581321 »

echelon wrote: post #7
magic_hamster wrote: post #5

I feel bad for Netflix. They pioneered this market segment and now it reached saturation, people are getting tired of streaming fragmentation, their content took a turn for the worse and we are slowly and surely marching towards the next "Netflix of Streaming Services", which is basically Cable over IP. I wonder of Netflix could have done anything to keep being so far ahead and offer content from so many other compan…

Netflix should have bought out NBC, CBS/Paramount, Discovery, or (most significantly) HBO/WB. Or even just their perpetual streaming rights back in the 00's. Letting Discovery acquire WB was one of the biggest mistakes they've ever made. Just imagine if Netflix had the HBO and WB slate. Game of Thrones, all of DC, Cartoon Network... HBO has the superior content lineup, and they let that slide through their fingers. T…

Netflix couldn’t afford WB or NBC without slowing down the rest of their content production. A lot of the content they would’ve gotten doesn’t work well on streaming, as Warner is finding out. Spending time and money on a major network would’ve put them behind, and scared all their competitors early. By not weighing themselves down, they were able to build their massive library.

Netflix tried hard to get the LotR rights. Just about every major streamer did.

Building critically acclaimed cinematic universes is something everyone struggles with, except maybe Disney.

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