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What “work” looks like

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Re: What “work” looks like

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Love it! as a Product Manager there's always the tension between being inclusive and collaborative and turning into product-by-committee, which never ends well.

You end up doing what people asked, not what was processed, as you say - in the shower, and lit up as the best thing forward

Re: What “work” looks like

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I've had more ideas come to me after hiding in my office to take a nap than sitting at my desk. It got to be such a gold mine of solutions that I still to this day allocate 30 minutes of my day to a nap. Non-negotiable. So many hard problems that have been brought to me, or complicated needs for architecture, etc were solved by simply turning my active brain off. When I was in graduate school I'd regularly get stuck…

During my PhD, I had a friend famous for having a pillow on his desk. He would take a nap everyday and went on to finish his PhD 6 months earlier than all prognostications and with some great ideas.

Re: What “work” looks like

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Look how many comments here are something like: "Well, of course leisure is good - because it helps me work harder!" It's sad. It's that "work-is-noble" ethos. These people are effectively saying that they are at-lesiure in order to work better - they have it backwards! I don't know about you, but I work in order to be-at-leisure; I am only ever not-at-leisure in order to be-at-leisure. Refreshing and recharging is g…

Some people enjoy creating things and solving problems.

Re: What “work” looks like

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>In the context of such a short post, the fact the author mentions going for "a run" twice doesn't seem trivial to me. Gets the blood pumping and overclocks your brain. I too have been working from home since covid started. What I find, take a break from sitting and move around. Do some chores. It gets your blood pumping and when you sit back at your desk you receive a +20 IQ points temporary boost.

It’s more than that if you have ADHD or are on the spectrum. Repetitive activities help upregulate the brain in ways that allow for these sorts of random connections between seemingly disparate data to happen more reliably. Some people think better when fidgeting, walking, brushing teeth, washing their hair, walking through doorways. I went through a particularly dangerous phase in college where ideas would come to m…

>It’s more than that if you have ADHD or are on the spectrum.

I'm IT and not a doctor and do realize 'alternative medicine' is amongst my original post. I'm not against modern medicine, but I do also realize modern medcine is not perfect and has been corrupted in many ways.

Re: What “work” looks like

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It often feels like “teams” of 1.5 work really well. Basically this is one person doing the work, with one other person who is very much in the loop but not actually on the hook. The worker is getting the job done, and the consultant is offering ideas, questioning some decisions, reviewing WIP, and generally supporting the worker. Having been on both sides of this, I think that the little bit of distance that the con…

Great insight! I always look back at my high-school internship at a real software company back in the 90's. I spent at least half my day sitting in the cube of the old unix greybeard (literally) just watching him code and once in a while asking what he was doing. It seemed like a waste of time, but 1) I became a really good c programmer from multiple summers of watching an expert, and 2) since I really wasn't in char…

I had a similar experience in my last position. I was helping to lead a very green second shift team and had very little experience on the system we were testing. I ended up shifting my hours to split them between first and second shift and would spend the first part of the day just watching a very experienced operator. All I really I did was just help him plot and interpret data in excel or matlab. When we transitioned to second shift I would be already be familiar with the issues of the day and got to practice the things I observed earlier in the day. Having the time to sit back and observe allowed me to ramp up extremely quickly on the program.

I feel the one-on-one relationship can work well in both situations where the individuals are peers and when it is more of a mentor-mentee relationship. In grad school I had a close friend that was on more of a VLSI track while I was on an RF track. We had different expertise, but a shared a common background of electrical engineering. This allowed us to bounce ideas off each other where there was enough competence to provide meaningful feedback and just enough diversity to provide a different perspectives/approaches.

I recently gave a listen to the BBC podcast The Bomb and some of the work done in the era seemed to also follow pairing of minds. Maybe it was just the way the material was presented, but there seemed to primarily be a team of two tackling each of the major components needed for the various atomic programs to succeed.

There was an article linked here a while back about tacit knowledge that I feel applies in a way to the mentor-mentee relationship. Many comments about skills learned by observation and imitation from one-on-one work. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23465862

Re: What “work” looks like

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The catch is that empowerment (this is the correct word that everyone seems to be looking for) and collaboration are opposites: I trust you to solve this vs. let's solve this together.

People tend to lash out at whichever one seems like a problem: "You can't get anything done around here without some stupid committee harassing you!" "The left hand doesn't even know what the right hand is doing!" They don't understand that yes, you have to balance these opposing values, and that "opposing" doesn't mean right vs. wrong.

Re: What “work” looks like

#167
I worked at Apple during the second, golden Steve Jobs era. It's easy to assume that the culture of secrecy and need-to-know disclosure was for marketing/PR benefit and/or old-school Silicon Valley "only the paranoid survive" mindset, and perhaps that's true, but a very real side effect is that you have very tight loops of communication, so you can focus and move quickly without being stuck in tons of meetings or drown in mass emails or otherwise become easily distracted. Of course there are downsides, but when it works, it's beautiful. It's the best "case against collaboration" I have experienced.

Re: What “work” looks like

#168
collaboration for me is tremendously helpful to remove blind spots, and learn how others think about the problem.

the solution to a thorny problem is often conceived alone, and then refined with a set of motivated engineers.

Re: What “work” looks like

#169
I liked this line "still felt a strange obligation to be at his computer because that’s too often our the metal image of “working”."

Even as a business owner, sometimes I sit at my desk "working" but on nothing in particular. I should be walking.

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