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The world can go a few hours without WhatsApp. If it's that important, just pick up the phone.
I don't know the phone numbers of anyone except my mother and my bank.
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Telegram (per default) does not have end-to-end encryption.
"Telegram is more secure than mass market messengers like WhatsApp and Line." https://telegram.org/faq#q-how-secure-is-telegram
Also, being based in the UAE doesn't inspire confidence on the privacy and security front... Nor the fact they promised to release yearly transparency reports and then never did so... Or the fact Der Spiegel claims they have evidence of Telegram handing over user chats to authorities despite the fact telegrams FAQ claims they have never done so...
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Why not Telegram, it has by far the best UX of all chat apps.
Moving to another centralized service is just getting on the same wagon again. 'email' doesn't go down, that's not even a coherent concept.
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I don't think he means you, or the users that needs this, but instead that it is possible to do if they are open source.
I'm always befuddled by how some people really take things so literally...
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"Telegram is more secure than mass market messengers like WhatsApp and Line." https://telegram.org/faq#q-how-secure-is-telegram
I don't agree with that claim. While there is no e2e encryption, the number of people that can see the chats between me and my mother has just gone from two (me and her) to 500 (all the engineers on the telegram team). Also, being based in the UAE doesn't inspire confidence on the privacy and security front... Nor the fact they promised to release yearly transparency reports and then never did so... Or the fact Der S…
> Also, being based in the UAE doesn't inspire confidence on the privacy and security front...
Well the 5 eyes do not inspire confidence either, and that's where whatsapp is based.
And Apple has plans to automatically inform law enforcement from device scans. At least telegram client is open source so that is unlikely to happen on the client side directly.
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Take my advice - switch off notifications. You'll still see the badge on the app itself e.g. with a red dot, at least that's how it is on iOS. So when you see that you'll know to open it. Before that, there's no reason to be bothered while you're doing something else.
You mean switch off banners - if you switch off notifications entirely, the badge will not update as the app will not wake up in the background to fetch new messages when they come in.
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The world can go a few hours without WhatsApp. If it's that important, just pick up the phone.
It is not presently possible to make PSTN phone calls to several of the people in warzones with whom I use WhatsApp to communicate. IP networks have much more reach than the PSTN these days. It's not 1995.
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Yeah I don't even know if that upper post was meant to be sarcastic. Telegram, despite the security theater, is amazing UX-wise. It's such a joy to use and I see myself more and more engaging with Telegram contacts just because it's convenient in many subtle yet impactful ways.
You can improve the UX of Matrix clients. You can not make Telegram decentralized or take it out of control of one single entity.
I don't use either so I don't really care. I just don't expect a consumer service with subpar UI to win market share solely on technical merits.