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WhatsApp goes down for users globally

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Re: WhatsApp goes down for users globally

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Post by Ayesh »

rglullis wrote: post #38
Ayesh wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I don't even know if that upper post was meant to be sarcastic. Telegram, despite the security theater, is amazing UX-wise. It's such a joy to use and I see myself more and more engaging with Telegram contacts just because it's convenient in many subtle yet impactful ways.

You can improve the UX of Matrix clients. You can not make Telegram decentralized or take it out of control of one single entity.

Honest question, is there are Matrix client that has a decent amount of UX work gone into it? I recently started to use Fluffy, that looks pretty good with a nice clean design, but does not have the same level of polish as Telegram, at least not yet. It's open source and one should try to contribute and not complain, that I figure, but not everyone can contribute in the first place.

Re: WhatsApp goes down for users globally

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Post by dustedcodes »

Even though I do have WhatsApp I wouldn't have noticed without this HN headline.

Everyone I message with is via iMessage or Signal nowadays and I only have WhatsApp because I am part of a few sports clubs which have a WhatsApp group but we don't chat enough for me to notice a downtime like today.

Makes me happy to see how I've actually managed to rid myself of WhatsApp for the most part.

Re: WhatsApp goes down for users globally

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Post by Arathorn »

Ayesh wrote: post #41
rglullis wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can improve the UX of Matrix clients. You can not make Telegram decentralized or take it out of control of one single entity.

Honest question, is there are Matrix client that has a decent amount of UX work gone into it? I recently started to use Fluffy, that looks pretty good with a nice clean design, but does not have the same level of polish as Telegram, at least not yet. It's open source and one should try to contribute and not complain, that I figure, but not everyone can contribute in the first place.

https://element.io/blog/an-unrecognisable-improvement-elemen...

Re: WhatsApp goes down for users globally

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Post by weissbier »

Ayesh wrote: post #41
rglullis wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can improve the UX of Matrix clients. You can not make Telegram decentralized or take it out of control of one single entity.

Honest question, is there are Matrix client that has a decent amount of UX work gone into it? I recently started to use Fluffy, that looks pretty good with a nice clean design, but does not have the same level of polish as Telegram, at least not yet. It's open source and one should try to contribute and not complain, that I figure, but not everyone can contribute in the first place.

If you don't mind that it's web based, try Cinny: https://cinny.in

Re: WhatsApp goes down for users globally

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Post by jakopo87 »

taspeotis wrote: post #29

I don’t think there’s a status page for WhatsApp, but Meta has this for the business side of things: https://metastatus.com/whatsapp-business-api

It does exist a twitter[0] account not updated since 2014 that has, ironically, in its bio: "We are working very hard to make this twitter account irrelevant."

[0] https://nitter.net/wa_status

Re: WhatsApp goes down for users globally

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Post by Spacemolte »

mritzmann wrote: post #40
rglullis wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can improve the UX of Matrix clients. You can not make Telegram decentralized or take it out of control of one single entity.

> You can improve the UX of Matrix clients No. Most people can't do that (because not everyone is a software developer).

I don't think he means you, or the users that needs this, but instead that it is possible to do if they are open source.

Re: WhatsApp goes down for users globally

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Post by taink »

driminicus wrote: post #24
miroljub wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I supposed it's a Matrix client, but couldn't find anything by glancing the home page. Btw, the whole idea of "no phone numbers" makes it really hard to spread. It basically means you can't send a message to anyone in your address book that already has Session installed, unless you get his Session username by other means.

It is not a matrix client. I haven't dug too deep into their system, but it looks to me like a centralized server with additional steps (ie. still a single entity owning the server infrastructure)

From what I read in their documentation[1], session's network is built upon an onion routing system where nodes are registered in the OXEN blockchain; you stake 15000 $OXEN to create a node and if you are "well-behaved" you get rewards in that blockchain -- otherwise you lose your stake.

I haven't dug too deep either but it doesn't sound much more centralized than the tor network for example.

[1] https://docs.oxen.io/products-built-on-oxen/session/network-...

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