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I’m pretty skeptical lawmakers are the best ones to make technical decisions like this.
Clearly Apple wasn't making the leap, so I'm ok with them getting a shove.
Or is your belief that Apple should aggressively make users replace all their accessories?
Just curious, what happens when USB C gets outdated and needs to be replaced?
People don't really need that much data transfer speed with their phones, and we already have the technology to push 80 Gb/s via USB-C. Apple has gotten by by selling sub-0.5 Gb/s for a decade. And I'd expect us to hit a couple more speed records still before we actually outgrow the physical USB-C connector.
We're also pushing up to 240 watts through the USB-C connector, so the charging side (the one that people care much more about) also seems fine for the USB-C connector.
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This law does not carve the USB-C into stone. There is a review mechanism and a mechanism for monitoring the market and approving another port in the future when it's time to do so. This is done through the USB Implementers Forum. All this law really, truly does is force manufacturers to sit around a table and work out a single solution for the whole electronics market. EU doesn't really care about USB-C or USB-D or…
That committee can easily hold the standard hostage unless the EU allows innovative manufacturers to prove new connectors in the real world.
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For charging, the spec is tiny. For slow to medium data, USB 2.0 is baked in to so many chips that it's hard to imagine wanting anything else. For fast data, maybe you want a new port in some situations, but does that also have to be your only charging port?
> For charging, the spec is tiny. Have you ever looked at the horror that is USB-PD? The reason you've never seen v1 devices in the real world is because the spec was impossible to implement so they had to fix it in a v2.
"Tiny" probably isn't the best word but it's straightforward enough. It can be put into tiny chips.
Cross network messaging and international roaming were solved problems in europe years before the US due to this kind of standardization.
I'm unsure how this helps prevent e-waste, all it seems guaranteed to do is ensure that any existing lightning accessories need to be replaced. If this legislation was 10 years earlier everything in the EU would be using micro/mini-usb today - and usb-c would not be an option without new legislation.
The law doesn't specify USB-C. It just says that the big players need to sit together at a table and set one standard for all. There's a mandatory time period in which they will have to do it again, and the cycle will continue.
I wonder how they will avoid it. Perhaps name their device a Personal Digital Assistent? It's easy to make a phone "virtual" inside the device nowadays.
I really dislike USB-C, they have failed at a higher rate than previous USB connector styles.
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The law doesn't specify USB-C. It just says that the big players need to sit together at a table and set one standard for all. There's a mandatory time period in which they will have to do it again, and the cycle will continue.
That’s way too sensible. I’m fairly certain that’s how the old law worked, not this one.