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Pfizer plans to sell its Covid vaccine at a 10k% markup

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Re: Pfizer plans to sell its Covid vaccine at a 10k% markup

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Post by landemva »

smt88 wrote: post #29
landemva wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not my conclusion. This study says "no effect on overall mortality". https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4072489 Be alert when reading the literature, because PCR tests don't prove infection. The PCR test amplifies genetic fragments. Every medical treatment has risks which should be considered for each patient.

> This study says "no effect on overall mortality". This would be convincing if mortality were the only measure that mattered, but it isn't. Covid can cause brain, lung, and heart problems that will haunt children for the rest of their lives. We already know that it can cause problems in those organs for months[1]. We also know that long after adults recover from Covid, their risk of all-cause mortality is increased[…

The Reuters article quoted below says children rarely suffer severe outcomes from Covid. Why should a healthy child take the risk of this emergency authorization medical treatment when children are generally okay?

Re: Pfizer plans to sell its Covid vaccine at a 10k% markup

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Post by weesh »

smt88 wrote: post #30
retinaros wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you are linking an article that just states what I wrote. being a journalist is more and more misleading nowadays. they could be replaced by bots we wouldnt see a difference. « From 1 July, 2022, it will no longer be possible for children and youngsters under the age of 18 to receive the 1st jab, and from 1 September, 2022, it will no longer be possible to receive the 2nd jab,” the Danish Health Authority said. The c…

> that is what a ban is. NO LONGER POSSIBLE. You should have kept reading. > "The authority said that some children with an increased risk would still be eligible for vaccination, after an assessment from a doctor." So that is not what a ban is. It's still possible for children to get vaccines, and this decision by Denmark isn't proof that it's a bad idea for children to get vaccines or that it's a bad idea for adult…

denmark's view is completely rational. high risk kids get the vaccine. low risk kids who will be fine don't have to get it. america is trying to push this stuff into schools and into your mind so Pfizer can make an absolute killing.

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Post by weesh »

iLoveOncall wrote: post #19
sschueller wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The R&D at either Moderna or Pfizer was paid for by tax payers.

> Pfizer did not accept federal funding to help develop or manufacture the vaccine https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/11/10/heal... "Tax payers" also means nothing when vaccines are developed in one or a few countries but sold to all countries in the world. Pretty sure Zimbabwean tax payers didn't fund the Pfizer vaccines.

wow, pfizer is so nice! they're not making money off the vaccine! i wonder how the US acquired so many of them

Re: Pfizer plans to sell its Covid vaccine at a 10k% markup

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Post by smt88 »

landemva wrote: post #31
smt88 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This study says "no effect on overall mortality". This would be convincing if mortality were the only measure that mattered, but it isn't. Covid can cause brain, lung, and heart problems that will haunt children for the rest of their lives. We already know that it can cause problems in those organs for months[1]. We also know that long after adults recover from Covid, their risk of all-cause mortality is increased[…

The Reuters article quoted below says children rarely suffer severe outcomes from Covid. Why should a healthy child take the risk of this emergency authorization medical treatment when children are generally okay?

Because, as I mentioned in my reply, many children survive Covid and still have significant negative effects that lost long after the infection clears up.

Immune system battles are extremely hard on the body.

Re: Pfizer plans to sell its Covid vaccine at a 10k% markup

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Post by landemva »

smt88 wrote: post #34
landemva wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Reuters article quoted below says children rarely suffer severe outcomes from Covid. Why should a healthy child take the risk of this emergency authorization medical treatment when children are generally okay?

Because, as I mentioned in my reply, many children survive Covid and still have significant negative effects that lost long after the infection clears up. Immune system battles are extremely hard on the body.

The first link said "studies quantifying the number of cases of long COVID in kids have varied widely." That first link also did not seem to indicate if Covid was diagnosed with blood test or PCR fragment amplification or flu-like symptoms.

The second link was for "people".

There is a significant lack of rigor in the diagnosis and studies of covid in children, though overall mortality in children is low. For children in decent health, the emergency treatment does not seem warranted until the typical new drug side-effect studies have been completed.

Until the long-term safety studies are in, there are safe alternative prophylactics but those don't make much profit nor yearly recurring booster profits.

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Post by brianwawok »

weesh wrote: post #32
smt88 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> that is what a ban is. NO LONGER POSSIBLE. You should have kept reading. > "The authority said that some children with an increased risk would still be eligible for vaccination, after an assessment from a doctor." So that is not what a ban is. It's still possible for children to get vaccines, and this decision by Denmark isn't proof that it's a bad idea for children to get vaccines or that it's a bad idea for adult…

denmark's view is completely rational. high risk kids get the vaccine. low risk kids who will be fine don't have to get it. america is trying to push this stuff into schools and into your mind so Pfizer can make an absolute killing.

Or like… the less kids that get infected, the less kids miss school? It’s still worth it to avoid missed school days.

Re: Pfizer plans to sell its Covid vaccine at a 10k% markup

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Post by brianwawok »

7speter wrote: post #10
iLoveOncall wrote: post #7

They mention a production cost of $1.20 per vial, but I imagine this only involves the actual production and not what the initial R&D has cost, so the figure of 10,000% is probably largely exaggerated. 10,000% also sounds a lot worst than "$130 per vial for a production cost of $1.20". I don't find the price shocking.

It seems they might also be covering costs for when a vial gets opened for a shot or two and then has to be thrown away after being above freezing for too long.

No in the new pricing it’s single dose vials.

But even today they are making a 5 dose vial for $9 and selling each shot for $30. If they throw away 4 they still made money.

Re: Pfizer plans to sell its Covid vaccine at a 10k% markup

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Post by retinaros »

smt88 wrote: post #30
retinaros wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you are linking an article that just states what I wrote. being a journalist is more and more misleading nowadays. they could be replaced by bots we wouldnt see a difference. « From 1 July, 2022, it will no longer be possible for children and youngsters under the age of 18 to receive the 1st jab, and from 1 September, 2022, it will no longer be possible to receive the 2nd jab,” the Danish Health Authority said. The c…

> that is what a ban is. NO LONGER POSSIBLE. You should have kept reading. > "The authority said that some children with an increased risk would still be eligible for vaccination, after an assessment from a doctor." So that is not what a ban is. It's still possible for children to get vaccines, and this decision by Denmark isn't proof that it's a bad idea for children to get vaccines or that it's a bad idea for adult…

ok a ban for kids minus auto immune kids and kids from americans expats (minus prifzer execs kids)

make sense. and you know why they did that? because unlike us they value children lives more than old people because they are the future of society. in other countries we sacrify our youngs so the old can be safe and live off their wealth. confinements, vaccines that have higher risk than covid (for,kids and that is why danemark banned it for the average kid)

dont worry youll join danemark decision in ten years when lawsuits will be everywhere in the u.s

Re: Pfizer plans to sell its Covid vaccine at a 10k% markup

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Post by ls15 »

iLoveOncall wrote: post #19
sschueller wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The R&D at either Moderna or Pfizer was paid for by tax payers.

> Pfizer did not accept federal funding to help develop or manufacture the vaccine https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/11/10/heal... "Tax payers" also means nothing when vaccines are developed in one or a few countries but sold to all countries in the world. Pretty sure Zimbabwean tax payers didn't fund the Pfizer vaccines.

Because the Pfizer vaccine wasn't developed by Pfizer, but by Biontech, who received funding from German tax payers and other institutions.
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