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Ask HN: Why are there not more Apple-quality products?

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Re: Ask HN: Why are there not more Apple-quality products?

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If you want the disappointing answer, it's because the United States government implicitly forces a smartphone manufacturing duopoly where both options are under their control. If you want the slightly-less-disappointing answer, it's because there aren't any other tech companies with 200 billion dollars in liquid cash sitting in their bank account. If you want the bluepill answer, it's because Tim Cook has a secret v…

> Maybe the most realistic answer is that everyone else has seen what Apple made, and doesn't want to build a locked-down vertical ecosystem

Yes because other companies care about “freedom” and your ability to run your gnu tool chain.

> Trying to sell a device as locked-down as the iPhone in 2022 will rightfully get you laughed out of the room.

What bubble are you living in?

Re: Ask HN: Why are there not more Apple-quality products?

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Maybe try... a good Android phone? This question is silly. The Pixel or any top-end Samsung is equivalent or better than the iPhone in hardware. The Android and iOS user interfaces are similar enough that it's mostly personal preference and familiarity.

For the first two years until Google and Samsung stop updating it.

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Re: Ask HN: Why are there not more Apple-quality products?

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Maybe try... a good Android phone? This question is silly. The Pixel or any top-end Samsung is equivalent or better than the iPhone in hardware. The Android and iOS user interfaces are similar enough that it's mostly personal preference and familiarity.

For the first two years until Google and Samsung stop updating it.

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Re: Ask HN: Why are there not more Apple-quality products?

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Because most people buy Androids that are much cheaper than iPhones. Buy an Android phone that's priced similarly as iPhone (e.g. Samsung Galaxy S series) and the quality is just as good.

Comparing Samsung to Apple is laughable. Samsung is clueless when it comes to product design. Their strategy can be best described as “throwing shit at the wall and see what sticks”. Latest attempt: foldable phones. Foldable phones will never be a thing again and their desperate marketing campaign is embarrassing. The only thing keeping them in the ring is their inarguably impressive manufacturing capabilities that allow them churn out a lot of different attempts but overall, they’re a ship without a rudder or a captain.

Re: Ask HN: Why are there not more Apple-quality products?

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Honestly I think it is because there is a real disdain, or at least disrespect, toward the arts amongst many technologists and at many technology companies. They treat art and design as just an extra thing you do at the end, rather than a key philosophy that informs the entire product design process. This applies to graphic design, product design, even fashion.

This is very much unlike Apple (under Jobs at least.) Jobs talked repeatedly about the importance of the arts, of typography, and so on. You rarely hear the same comments from other hardware company CEOs.

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