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Re: Ask HN: What Happens to Older Designers?

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Many go into management, as you say. In my experience the best managers were never even remotely the best designers in terms of pure raw talent. That is sorta secondary to your question, and just kinda my own personal inject. At the same time though, I think it supports the idea that staff/principal/"Distinguished whatever" titles for design serve a use case. In fact, some BigCos have adopted that model similar to St…

What exactly is / has been burning you out? PS your profile needs an email address if you want folks to reach out ;)

Hey good call! I thought mine was, but thanks for correcting.

Truly, I think I just find the design work mundane at this point - maybe just by virtue of doing it for so many years. I do a lot of coding work (throwaway UI component prototypes, that kind of thing) and am finding more joy there.

But part of it too is that I work at a big financial corp who are a great employer, but our tools ecosystem and ability to share work with the outside world is _incredibly_ limited. Just a common trade-off of working at such a company, and I understand why that has to be. But nothing fulfilled me more than shipping things at a startup or small, nimble company. Hoping I can get back to that when our family is a little more comfortable financially.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree strongly. Personal referrals are one of the most effective ways to get a job, and also one of the most effective ways to increase hiring quality. At the very least a personal reference will fast track you into an interview stage ahead of most other cold applications.

There are edge cases where a personal reference is valuable. If you’re inexperienced, it can get you an interview. Or it can get you a job at a small company without a real HR department. But outside of that, a hiring decision made based on a personal relationship is considered cronyism. It isn’t always illegal, but most HR departments go out of their way to prevent it. “It’s not what you know, it’s who you know” is…

Its easy to slip this past HR. The hiring manager picks the interview panel and sets expectations about the skills they should look for. These are targeted at what you already know the candidate is good at. They pass the committee due to great feedback.

Re: Ask HN: What Happens to Older Designers?

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I'm 69, about to turn 70. I'm in a senior technical consulting role which often requires me to go on the tools. I work for a big, successful software firm that can afford to pay well. Most of my peers are 20+ years younger than me and quite smart, so I have to work hard to keep up. But I manage. Next year I will quit my job and 'retire'. In fact I'll be using my financial security to start up a SaaS. business. I have a bunch of ideas I've been wanting to work on. Working keeps me focused and connected. My rule is: stay interested, stay connected.

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I'm 69, about to turn 70. I'm in a senior technical consulting role which often requires me to go on the tools. I work for a big, successful software firm that can afford to pay well. Most of my peers are 20+ years younger than me and quite smart, so I have to work hard to keep up. But I manage. Next year I will quit my job and 'retire'. In fact I'll be using my financial security to start up a SaaS. business. I have…

> My rule is: stay interested, stay connected.

This is inspiring and what a great way to think about working & retirement!

Re: Ask HN: What Happens to Older Designers?

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Hmmm.. not quite 70 but retiring Real Soon Now. I'm allegedly a software developer but I make small (efficient) web sites as well. I spend a lot of time with side projects that are getting more complex than the day job ever was. I've survived by (a) always having a side-project on the go all the time, and (b) using own time and self-education to teach myself skills that my soon-to-be-ex-employer wouldn't pay for. Oh, and (c); self-hosting to create proofs-of-concept - great fun! 70-onwards? More of the same, and I quote.. https://dilbert.com/strip/1995-06-24

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I've worked with some designers who were coming right up on what's typically 'retirement age', who were basically still individual contributors, but just at a very high level. They bring an incredible wealth of experience – everything we think is new has probably been tried at one point before. But the best ones don't take a jaded "we tried that already" view – they're just able to riff-off the new ideas while sharing insights and learnings over an incredibly long time window.

There's being physically young, and then there's having a 'Beginner's Mind', which is something that one can have at any age – or never grasp at all.

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I'm 75. You will pull the keyboard out of my cold, dead hands. "Nobody knows you are a dog on the internet" Ditto being aged ~ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Internet,_nobody_knows_... Most of the technologies I play with - HTML5, webGL, Three.js etc - did not exist ten years ago. So it's a level playing field. There's more open source stuff on GitHub that needs help and mentoring than you can shake a keyboard,…

Please sir advise how to become like you, thanks.

Meditation, regular hours of sleep in true darkness, lots of soluble fiber, not much passive transportation. (But I'm just 65 and inventing not designing or coding now.)

Re: Ask HN: What Happens to Older Designers?

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I'm 75. You will pull the keyboard out of my cold, dead hands. "Nobody knows you are a dog on the internet" Ditto being aged ~ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Internet,_nobody_knows_... Most of the technologies I play with - HTML5, webGL, Three.js etc - did not exist ten years ago. So it's a level playing field. There's more open source stuff on GitHub that needs help and mentoring than you can shake a keyboard,…

At least now I know I'm not the oldest one here (barely)... =)
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