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Ask HN: How do you deal with the end of globalization?

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Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with the end of globalization?

#22
Since this is HN, here is a book recommendation:

The End of the World Is Just the Beginning: Mapping the Collapse of Globalization by Peter Zeihan

I’m going to add the usual disclaimers here about everything that comes with listening to a guy who has been predicting doom for a decade. He is very entertaining though and he has some unique insights and some unusual data comparisons - it’s fun to read.

To be fair, he did predict events in Ukraine a few weeks before they happened [1]. That counts for as much credibility as one can have with a title of “geopolitical strategist”

[1] Jump to 7:45 https://youtu.be/UA-jOLF2T4c

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with the end of globalization?

#23

> Cold War 2.0 is coming This would be a blessing. I think we can trace most of our problems back to the end of the cold war. If we have some common thing to fight against we stop fighting each other (see Watchmen- ironically though it was about ending the cold war but a level down it works) More realistic is a 1984 style "continuous but meaningless war" that lets the various parties pursue their ideological aims wit…

On a more positive note, hell yea here comes another space race!

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with the end of globalization?

#24
I wish it was just a cold war. It has turned into a real fucking disaster. Despot Putin does not seem to be backing off, and perhaps will destroy all of Ukraine's vital infrastructure no matter the cost. If Ukrainians still stand still, he will not hesitate to use nuclear weapons.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with the end of globalization?

#25
Why did the west even go to China in the first place? Cheaper labor.

China can’t go do what the West does by meta colonizing (economically colonizing) South America, India, Africa and South East Asia because their people need the low wage jobs too.

The West will just go elsewhere. If China and Russia don’t want the business, someone else will. And when suddenly those other someones become the growth story, China/Russia will adapt and reprice (as in, they will stop the shenanigans).

This will sort itself out. Amoral industries will find the geopolitical jockeying by the growth economy leaders as a liability.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with the end of globalization?

#26
> I believe the era of growth is over. What are your preparation for low growth era?

I doubt it. It's a shame to see China isolating itself, but at the end of the day the manufacturing could just be moved somewhere else like India or Vietnam. Economically speaking, isolation is never the way forward, and China will likely fall further behind. Any sort of aggression on their part will only ensure that this happens

If anything, the extreme differences between China/Russia and the US will just bring the US (and the Anglosphere) closer together. I'm convinced the west has reached a stage of post war society where it's understood that it's better to grow up rather than out

What will be interesting to see is how Putin handles the current situation, considering they're losing ground and poorly prepared

Ofc I'm speculating here, and my position is highly US-centric

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with the end of globalization?

#28

> Cold War 2.0 is coming This would be a blessing. I think we can trace most of our problems back to the end of the cold war. If we have some common thing to fight against we stop fighting each other (see Watchmen- ironically though it was about ending the cold war but a level down it works) More realistic is a 1984 style "continuous but meaningless war" that lets the various parties pursue their ideological aims wit…

> This would be a blessing. I think we can trace most of our problems back to the end of the cold war. If we have some common thing to fight against we stop fighting each other

Except for that whole Jim Crow thing in the south…

This was hundreds of years ago. My still living parent grew up during segregation.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with the end of globalization?

#30
Its more like US trying to isolate itself from Russia and China (for seemingly different reasons), don't you think?

It is as if US wants to rollback globalisation, because they feel it is starting to disadvantage them.

But for many companies Apple for example, a globalised world is better, in both ways in terms of efficient supply chains and getting access to markets.

International trade is a magic bullet in economics.

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