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San Francisco is spending $1.7M on one public toilet

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Re: San Francisco is spending $1.7M on one public toilet

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Post by cudgy »

cycrutchfield wrote: post #789
cudgy wrote: post #485

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Perhaps because they are the ones that actually convert the plans and raw resources into a useful building? Plans for bathrooms and buildings can be easily pulled from a shelf of existing plans, tweaked a bit, and sent out, but building the actual structure can never be avoided.

Tell me you don’t know anything about construction without telling me you don’t know anything about construction

Mission accomplished. I never stated anything about my knowledge of construction. However, for whatever little it’s worth, I do know more about it than most people I encounter, especially in a forum like HN.

Re: San Francisco is spending $1.7M on one public toilet

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Post by skinnymuch »

Zanneth wrote: post #648
bsder wrote: post #641

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So, it's perfectly okay for the poor to suffer terribly as long as it's out of your sight. Got it.

I'm saying that it sounds like they are suffering equally in both environments, so living in a place where it is hidden is a net benefit for everyone.

How is it benefiting the people suffering?

Re: San Francisco is spending $1.7M on one public toilet

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Post by skinnymuch »

asow92 wrote: post #671
kelnos wrote: post #655

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> Why is it that the deepest blue areas of the country have some of the most abject inequity and poverty? Because urban areas tend to be blue, and urban areas attract more poverty (costs are higher, easier to get into poverty; but also there are plenty of public services around that make it "easier" to be poor). Poverty is also just much more visible in areas with denser populations. I assure you that there's plenty…

And I assure you there's in fact more poverty in right-leaning areas. Yet they are cleaner, safer, and overall more beautiful places to live.

Safer for who? I’m sure enough of the disproportionate minority men in prison and jail or who get harassed by police would disagree with safer. Same with transgender people or people not fitting into traditional social norms.

Re: San Francisco is spending $1.7M on one public toilet

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Post by vlovich123 »

asow92 wrote: post #723
vlovich123 wrote: post #688

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Yeah. God forbid poorer live next to me. You know who else has that mentality? People who are much better off than you and view you as the pots. You know what’s demonstrably shown to improve moral and connectedness of a society? Being forced to live next to people who are worse off than you so that your self-interest is to vote and advocate on their behalf so that you’re not living in a shithole.

As it’s their prerogative to see us as “the pots(?)”.

Autocorrect from “poors”

Re: San Francisco is spending $1.7M on one public toilet

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Post by david_allison »

bruce343434 wrote: post #786
david_allison wrote: post #729

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> An expense of $60,000 could be written as $60M. Internet advertisers are familiar with CPM which is the cost per thousand impressions. > The letter k is also used represent one thousand. For example, an annual salary of $60,000 might appear as $60k instead of $60M. [0] k and MM are unambiguous. You don't want to stop & think, and you definitely don't want to be off by a factor of 1000. So it makes sense to avoid ty…

As a European, I have never seen suffix M = 1000. It’s always a million. Is this one of those things America does different?

It's inconsistent worldwide

https://old.reddit.com/r/FinancialCareers/comments/usdr2d/le...

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skinnymuch wrote: post #794
asow92 wrote: post #671

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And I assure you there's in fact more poverty in right-leaning areas. Yet they are cleaner, safer, and overall more beautiful places to live.

Safer for who? I’m sure enough of the disproportionate minority men in prison and jail or who get harassed by police would disagree with safer. Same with transgender people or people not fitting into traditional social norms.

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Re: San Francisco is spending $1.7M on one public toilet

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Post by asow92 »

Der_Einzige wrote: post #760
asow92 wrote: post #514

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While I don't think Yang has a shot, I really appreciate his attempt to find a new, level-headed middle. Finding middle ground is our best hope. I think there are ideas from both sides that could help both city and rural constituents, and believe that the culture war has gotten out of control on both sides with irreconcilable differences that disqualify the other. However, I also believe that rural voters could be wo…

Damn, yang was making people think he was a centerist? He's by far the furthest left candidate who ran (yes, even further that Bernie sanders!)

While I don’t think UBI will work, I like some of the other things he’s advocating for in the forward party like open primaries and ranked choice voting. Those may disincentivize extremism on both ends of the spectrum.

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Post by citizenpaul »

anm89 wrote: post #32
citizenpaul wrote: post #24

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People that think like you interest me. Exactly how much would someone have to move against you before you simply stopped them and said this is enough regardless of evidence? Like would you die instead of fight back if it came to it? Were your parents extremely well off? I don't see how one can make it through life without being wary of the bad intent other people can have without some sort of caretaker that will bai…

You are just making wild assumptions about my belief system. This is bordering on incoherent Can you point to where I say any of this is good or show any sign of support for any of it? Were your parent's uneducated? I don't see how you could make it through life with this level of reading comprehension.

You said you don't believe there is some sort of corruption but were open to more info that would prove you wrong.

Yet when I am looking at a project that me and a couple of guys could do over a weekend then be told its going to cost enough for modest person to retire. I don't need extra evidence. I know immediately that corruption is at play. There is no honest answer that ends up at 1.7mil. Sure you will get a mile long list of "explanations" that are all part of the corruption. That pile of money is going into bank accounts at the end of the day and that's all there is too it.

How can a person not see this?

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Post by Pigalowda »

kelseyfrog wrote: post #761
rayiner wrote: post #756

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That is what I gave you. The “global center” on social issues is that the public, through the government, has the prerogative to regulate personal and social morality. They have the power to regulate abortion, who can get married, what kind of birth control is available, etc., based on social consensus. Even countries that choose to allow certain things, typically do so as an exercise of that prerogative, not as a ma…

I can't help but feel I'm getting XY Problem-ed here. Thanks for trying, but I'm apparently not capable of communicating clearly enough to get what I'm asking for.

You want a quantitative answer to something qualitative - it doesn’t make that much sense to ask for an answer in such a way.

If you want to decide the center yourself on every issue then you’d have to take true and accurate surveys of a global population and then stratify them for their various biases (religious or cultural or whatever) then further stratify each cohort by age, family, gender, sexual orientation, and many other variables. The idealogical center to your surveys will just be the mode for your various questions, if true

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