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Re: Was It A Cat I Saw?

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Post by agentwiggles »

ronyeh wrote: post #16

https://jonagee.com/html/wp_books.php OTTO: a Palindrama Was the best book I've read to my kids this year. My 6 year old has been running around the house talking in palindrome. My mind was blown, and I had a few chuckles at some of the inventive palindromes. The story barely made sense, but it didn't matter. Highly recommended.

I loved "Go Hang A Salami, I'm a Lasagna Hog" as a kid, learned lots of good ones from there.

Another all time great, when it comes to media based around palindromes, is Weird Al's Bob Dylan style parody, palindromically titled: Bob.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUQDzj6R3p4

Re: Was It A Cat I Saw?

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Post by msravi »

There's a 14th century composition of, I think 40 verses or so in Sanskrit, that when read forwards relates events from the Ramayana and when read backwards, relates events from the Mahabharata. The musical notes to which it is set is also palindromic. Here's a video explaining one such verse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4KuL_dUMZc

Re: Was It A Cat I Saw?

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Post by shostack »

jahsome wrote: post #27

There's a famous skateboard video part by Mark Suciu, Verso, which has been covered ad nauseum in skate circles. The video ends in a groundbreaking way with somewhat of a palindrome: a series of tricks, with each trick mirroring the one before it. He's gone on record stating it took about 2000 attempts, more than two years, and resulted in numerous injuries. The final (and first!) trick of the sequence is among the s…

This sounds really interesting but I know nothing about skating, the people, or this video. Any links that break it down?

Re: Was It A Cat I Saw?

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Post by commandlinefan »

pfdietz wrote: post #18

A man, a plan, a canoe, pasta, heros, rajahs, a coloratura, maps, snipe, percale, macaroni, a gag, a banana bag, a tan, a tag, a banana bag again (or a camel), a crepe, pins, Spam, a rut, a Rolo, cash, a jar, sore hats, a peon, a canal--Panama! -- From Guy Steele, "Common Lisp, The Language (2nd ed.)" More: https://webhome.phy.duke.edu/~schol/WWW_palindromes.txt

Whoa... somebody tell me that was machine generated?

Re: Was It A Cat I Saw?

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Post by jahsome »

shostack wrote: post #33
jahsome wrote: post #27

There's a famous skateboard video part by Mark Suciu, Verso, which has been covered ad nauseum in skate circles. The video ends in a groundbreaking way with somewhat of a palindrome: a series of tricks, with each trick mirroring the one before it. He's gone on record stating it took about 2000 attempts, more than two years, and resulted in numerous injuries. The final (and first!) trick of the sequence is among the s…

This sounds really interesting but I know nothing about skating, the people, or this video. Any links that break it down?

Here are a couple links. It may be a little heavy on the jargon, but Mark's explanation is fantastic, even for the layman.

- Breaking down Mark Suciu’s “Verso”: https://andrew-hughes2012.medium.com/breaking-down-mark-suci...

- Mark Suciu's "Verso" Part (note the highlighted comment which describes the main "controversial" sequence): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlcxbZbHTj8&lc=UgwTbcW99Wm9Z...

- Mark Suciu Explains His Verso Part and the 50-50 Ender: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w97Y06WACOE

Re: Was It A Cat I Saw?

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Post by pencilguin »

commandlinefan wrote: post #34
pfdietz wrote: post #18

A man, a plan, a canoe, pasta, heros, rajahs, a coloratura, maps, snipe, percale, macaroni, a gag, a banana bag, a tan, a tag, a banana bag again (or a camel), a crepe, pins, Spam, a rut, a Rolo, cash, a jar, sore hats, a peon, a canal--Panama! -- From Guy Steele, "Common Lisp, The Language (2nd ed.)" More: https://webhome.phy.duke.edu/~schol/WWW_palindromes.txt

Whoa... somebody tell me that was machine generated?

Maybe. There are others thousands of lines long, and ultimately tedious.

Re: Was It A Cat I Saw?

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Post by mcv »

pfdietz wrote: post #18

A man, a plan, a canoe, pasta, heros, rajahs, a coloratura, maps, snipe, percale, macaroni, a gag, a banana bag, a tan, a tag, a banana bag again (or a camel), a crepe, pins, Spam, a rut, a Rolo, cash, a jar, sore hats, a peon, a canal--Panama! -- From Guy Steele, "Common Lisp, The Language (2nd ed.)" More: https://webhome.phy.duke.edu/~schol/WWW_palindromes.txt

"A man, a plan, a canal: Panama" has always sounded too simple to me. There's got to be more to it. Yours makes more sense.

Re: Was It A Cat I Saw?

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Post by mcv »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #7
kleiba wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Video unavailable. The uploader has not made this video available in your country."

The entire song is made up of palindromes. It contains the following variation of the post title: Was it a car or a cat I saw?

The fact that it's a parody of a Bob Dylan song and Bob is itself a palindrome, is the cherry on the cake. It's my favourite Weird Al song for this reason.

Re: Was It A Cat I Saw?

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Post by anyfoo »

jahsome wrote: post #36
shostack wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This sounds really interesting but I know nothing about skating, the people, or this video. Any links that break it down?

Here are a couple links. It may be a little heavy on the jargon, but Mark's explanation is fantastic, even for the layman. - Breaking down Mark Suciu’s “Verso”: https://andrew-hughes2012.medium.com/breaking-down-mark-suci... - Mark Suciu's "Verso" Part (note the highlighted comment which describes the main "controversial" sequence): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlcxbZbHTj8&lc=UgwTbcW99Wm9Z... - Mark Suciu Explains…

Wow, I... don't understand anything about this. I'd probably have to dig much deeper into this, or maybe even be a skater myself.

I don't understand what the tricks are and why they relate to each other. This is where skating myself would probably be important.

I don't even really get what a "part" is, what it is that is being named "Verso" here. I don't understand why the videos I'm looking at seem to consist of multiple different short clips, instead of being one long unbroken clip of what I would have expected "Verso", or maybe at least just the "ender", to be.

Are all the clips together "Verso"? Are they individual reenactments of Verso? Is Verso even a sequence of moves or is it some sort of, I don't know, style? Is the "ender" one clip or multiple?

So I basically understand neither the, uh, performance, nor the framing of it all? Which is an interesting feeling.

This is not a jab of any kind. From the way people talk about this, this totally seems like something I could passionately discuss evenings away with likeminded people if I was part of that world. It's just interesting how utterly impenetrable it looks to me at first glance. More so than, say, chess, e-sports, or figure skating, which I also no next to nothing about.

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