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Amazon's Jeff Bezos in economy warning: 'Batten down hatches'

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Re: Amazon's Jeff Bezos in economy warning: 'Batten down hatches'

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What about assets? At least if the asset prices go up you can recoup.

Asset prices go down when interest rates go up. Equities, real estate, even bonds (refer to bond funds getting decimated over the last year). Safe havens are cash or paying down debt with an interest rate over inflation. (not investing advice, educational purposes only)

> … paying down debt with an interest rate over inflation.

In a stagflation scenario though, wouldn’t paying down debt on any vehicle carrying a rate over what you can yield on the market still net out better for you overall?

Re: Amazon's Jeff Bezos in economy warning: 'Batten down hatches'

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Asset prices go down when interest rates go up. Equities, real estate, even bonds (refer to bond funds getting decimated over the last year). Safe havens are cash or paying down debt with an interest rate over inflation. (not investing advice, educational purposes only)

> … paying down debt with an interest rate over inflation. In a stagflation scenario though, wouldn’t paying down debt on any vehicle carrying a rate over what you can yield on the market still net out better for you overall?

Short answer, likely. Long answer, it depends.

Re: Amazon's Jeff Bezos in economy warning: 'Batten down hatches'

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Its important to note that every leader of a strong company has a financial interest in saying this, regardless of its validity. Growing companies need to "leave the hatches open" (so to speak) to, well, continue to grow; hire, attract talent, invest, raise pay, etc; which is exactly what strong companies don't want them to do. They benefit from pushing the narrative that the times are tough, from the privilege of ha…

That or fluffing up hedge funds looking to exit bearish positions where Mr. Bezos may or may not have some of his massive wealth parked. At some point the only way to continue growth is to buy a 24 hour news outlet and start letting the air out of everyone else's tires. Ask Microsoft.

Why would Bezos invest in hedge funds?

He's so wealthy he could lose 99.99% of his net worth and still live a life of complete luxury, safety and comfort.

Re: Amazon's Jeff Bezos in economy warning: 'Batten down hatches'

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I’m losing money by keeping it in a savings account. I’m losing money by keeping it in a brokerage account. I don’t want to change jobs to get a higher salary because I fear getting laid off. When there is no winning move, it definitely feels like a recession.

Not switching jobs is probably a mistake... The job market is incredibly tight, so it's the perfect time. Once the layoffs start it'll be harder to find work.

Re: Amazon's Jeff Bezos in economy warning: 'Batten down hatches'

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I’m losing money by keeping it in a savings account. I’m losing money by keeping it in a brokerage account. I don’t want to change jobs to get a higher salary because I fear getting laid off. When there is no winning move, it definitely feels like a recession.

The stock market is down, which makes it a good time to start buying

Outside the US it's worse because of the strong dollar.

Re: Amazon's Jeff Bezos in economy warning: 'Batten down hatches'

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Ally saving account rates are > 2%. You are not "losing money" in that your total account value is going up, but your purchasing power is going down as it's lower than inflation.

Why do that when treasuries are over 4% and exempt from state income tax?

Because they locked in for 3 months*

* You can sell early but you might take a hit.

Re: Amazon's Jeff Bezos in economy warning: 'Batten down hatches'

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Currently working for a US company but living abroad and getting paid in a local currency, which is getting hammered compared to the USD. This has had a weird side effect in that I've become a lot cheaper to hire recently. I was told this has made us the least likely to get laid off and we've avoided it so far. Many people I know who are getting paid in USD have been rubbing it in quite hard lately, honestly I'm happ…

For a couple of years now, I've been threatening to live abroad while still remotely working for US companies and getting paid in USD. Taking the digital nomad show international so to speak. You could move around to your advantage where the USD is strong. I have one attachment that is keeping from doing it, otherwise, I'd be typing this comment from a beach on the other side of the globe.

That's good for you, but the company who is paying you in USD isn't getting you cheaper. In my situation it makes better economical sense to keep my employed over someone getting paid in USD.

Re: Amazon's Jeff Bezos in economy warning: 'Batten down hatches'

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Is there a term for the phenomenon where a supremely powerful person can comment on some event that may happen, perhaps innocently, and the fact they said it makes it more likely to happen?

In many ways, the health of an economy is a state of mind and emotional. Bezos has millions of people following his every word; many worship him and believe he has the keys to success (could also say the same about Musk & Gates). A pessimistic statement like this, regardless of merit, can/will cause others to be pessimistic.

In a vacuum I would be very interested in Bezos's thoughts on this topic - he's clearly super-intelligent. But I don't think I could get past his powerful position and the many reasons why he may want to sway opinion.

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For a couple of years now, I've been threatening to live abroad while still remotely working for US companies and getting paid in USD. Taking the digital nomad show international so to speak. You could move around to your advantage where the USD is strong. I have one attachment that is keeping from doing it, otherwise, I'd be typing this comment from a beach on the other side of the globe.

That's good for you, but the company who is paying you in USD isn't getting you cheaper. In my situation it makes better economical sense to keep my employed over someone getting paid in USD.

Why does the company get me cheaper? My value is not dependent on my geographic location. My value is what knowledge/skill/experience that I bring to the company. This has always been a remote gig, well before pandemic made it chic for everyone to be remote. The assumption that my compensation has anything to do with location location location is solely on you.

Re: Amazon's Jeff Bezos in economy warning: 'Batten down hatches'

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The person you're responding to is talking about their warehouse workers, though it's possible something similar is happening with their engineers.

Something must be going on with their engineers. People who other FAANGs wouldn’t touch with a 20ft pole can get Amazon recruiters in their inbox.

It's an open secret it's a rough place to work, even as a programmer.

The Seattle Times and others have articles about it. No shortage of people talking shit on Reddit, either; NDAs don't last forever.

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