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Re: Tuna

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Would have benefited from mentioning nascent tuna farming, which is proving hard, and the probable use of whale catch as a distraction from wholesale tuna overfishing by japan: the opprobrium whale price being paid, the tuna profit is huge, flying under the radar.

Re: Tuna

#3
I'm confused, Wikipedia lists the Atlantic Blue Fin Tuna as "least concern". Is the author being dramatic or is the wiki page inaccurate?

That being said, the part about people speculating on animal extinction was new to me and saddens me deeply. One wonders in what way such a person views themselves, I can't imagine it being very favorable.

Re: Tuna

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post #2

Would have benefited from mentioning nascent tuna farming, which is proving hard, and the probable use of whale catch as a distraction from wholesale tuna overfishing by japan: the opprobrium whale price being paid, the tuna profit is huge, flying under the radar.

There’s a pretty significant difference in tuna stocks between the Atlantic and the Pacific. Japan sources tuna from the Pacific, and for high quality fish that fetches astronomical prices, it has to be caught via long-lining. Purse seiners may turn up bluefin from time to time, but they’re not set up to store and deliver it the way a long-liner is.

Anyhow, skipjack is the most common species of tuna in the Pacific and those are doing reasonably well. The countries with fishing waters are all part of a multi-nation compact that limits the number of fishing days that can be sold. This limit (as well as other limits on fishing techniques) serves to ensure that it’s not being overfished.

Re: Tuna

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post #3

I'm confused, Wikipedia lists the Atlantic Blue Fin Tuna as "least concern". Is the author being dramatic or is the wiki page inaccurate? That being said, the part about people speculating on animal extinction was new to me and saddens me deeply. One wonders in what way such a person views themselves, I can't imagine it being very favorable.

> people speculating on animal extinction was new to me and saddens me deeply.

At least they’re honest about it. The people responsible for the extinctions just shrug and either ignore it or lie.

There’s no way to point to your warehouse of bear gallbladders and say anything other than, “These are gonna be worth a ton once all the bears are dead.”

Re: Tuna

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post #2

Would have benefited from mentioning nascent tuna farming, which is proving hard, and the probable use of whale catch as a distraction from wholesale tuna overfishing by japan: the opprobrium whale price being paid, the tuna profit is huge, flying under the radar.

There’s a pretty significant difference in tuna stocks between the Atlantic and the Pacific. Japan sources tuna from the Pacific, and for high quality fish that fetches astronomical prices, it has to be caught via long-lining. Purse seiners may turn up bluefin from time to time, but they’re not set up to store and deliver it the way a long-liner is. Anyhow, skipjack is the most common species of tuna in the Pacific a…

skipjack is barely even a tuna.

Pacific bluefin is absolutely being overfished, even if the much bigger threat is lack of feeder fish due to the triple threat of climate change, pollution, and overfishing.

Re: Tuna

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post #2

Would have benefited from mentioning nascent tuna farming, which is proving hard, and the probable use of whale catch as a distraction from wholesale tuna overfishing by japan: the opprobrium whale price being paid, the tuna profit is huge, flying under the radar.

There’s a pretty significant difference in tuna stocks between the Atlantic and the Pacific. Japan sources tuna from the Pacific, and for high quality fish that fetches astronomical prices, it has to be caught via long-lining. Purse seiners may turn up bluefin from time to time, but they’re not set up to store and deliver it the way a long-liner is. Anyhow, skipjack is the most common species of tuna in the Pacific a…

Stripped of the conspiracy theory my point of substance is that I still believe Japan exceeds its tuna quotas routinely and is imperilling the pacific populations.

Re: Tuna

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s a pretty significant difference in tuna stocks between the Atlantic and the Pacific. Japan sources tuna from the Pacific, and for high quality fish that fetches astronomical prices, it has to be caught via long-lining. Purse seiners may turn up bluefin from time to time, but they’re not set up to store and deliver it the way a long-liner is. Anyhow, skipjack is the most common species of tuna in the Pacific a…

skipjack is barely even a tuna. Pacific bluefin is absolutely being overfished, even if the much bigger threat is lack of feeder fish due to the triple threat of climate change, pollution, and overfishing.

> skipjack is barely even a tuna.

In what regard? Culinary, or?

Re: Tuna

#9
post #3

I'm confused, Wikipedia lists the Atlantic Blue Fin Tuna as "least concern". Is the author being dramatic or is the wiki page inaccurate? That being said, the part about people speculating on animal extinction was new to me and saddens me deeply. One wonders in what way such a person views themselves, I can't imagine it being very favorable.

That seems like politics rather than science.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_bluefin_tuna#Conserva...

Re: Tuna

#10
Ahh chinese traditional medicine, a blight on our poor animal friends.
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