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Re: Ask HN: How to overcome job search exhaustion?

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Post by hardware2win »

sage76 wrote: post #112
jacknews wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's exhausting just reading this, let alone doing it with multiple companies. How did it get so crazy, or is this only for the most elite companies, and positions? I can't imagine going to all this trouble for a java programming position at a regional insurance company or something similar.

This is the process for almost every company, not just FAANGS.

Cool shit you folks have to go thru there.

In last year in eu Ive been in talks with 3 companies and all of them needed just 1 or 2 15min phone calls and one 1.5h talk over Teams.

So, if you want to do 3 or more tech rounds you better be fucking Microsoft or Apple

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome job search exhaustion?

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Post by sage76 »

hardware2win wrote: post #121
sage76 wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the process for almost every company, not just FAANGS.

Cool shit you folks have to go thru there. In last year in eu Ive been in talks with 3 companies and all of them needed just 1 or 2 15min phone calls and one 1.5h talk over Teams. So, if you want to do 3 or more tech rounds you better be fucking Microsoft or Apple

3?

Even no name companies are doing at least 4, sometimes 7-8 rounds.

I am sick of it, but what can you do when they all do the same thing.

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome job search exhaustion?

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Post by hardware2win »

sage76 wrote: post #122
hardware2win wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cool shit you folks have to go thru there. In last year in eu Ive been in talks with 3 companies and all of them needed just 1 or 2 15min phone calls and one 1.5h talk over Teams. So, if you want to do 3 or more tech rounds you better be fucking Microsoft or Apple

3? Even no name companies are doing at least 4, sometimes 7-8 rounds. I am sick of it, but what can you do when they all do the same thing.

If you are just interviewing for sport, not actually for job, then you can tell them that you are rejecting them due to rounds count

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome job search exhaustion?

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Post by singron »

Kranar wrote: post #78
deckard1 wrote: post #23

There's a lot of woo-woo going on in this thread. You need to find the actual problem. You're making it to the interview, so all these companies feel you're at least minimally qualified for the job. Are you just getting unlucky that all these companies are in a hiring freeze and aren't willing to commit right now? Have you changed up your interviewing, tried anything new? Are you having further post-interview discuss…

>There may be something going on that you're not aware of and interviewers don't want to tell you. This is absolutely key, and when OP says something like: "I often get praises during interviews, but never an offer." I kind of feel bad because honestly, many people will give praise to a person just to kind of end the conversation, and I will admit to being guilty of it myself. It avoids the situation where you then h…

I've noticed that for some interviewers, praise during the interview is inversely correlated with the rating they give (I did a lot of pair interviews, which have similar tradeoffs to pair programming).

Good candidates breeze through the main topic, get through some follow ups, and then we let them ask questions. Bad candidates have trouble with the material, so you might have to cut them off early to transition to their questions and some praise makes that feel smoother.

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome job search exhaustion?

#127

Post by jacknews »

sage76 wrote: post #112
jacknews wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's exhausting just reading this, let alone doing it with multiple companies. How did it get so crazy, or is this only for the most elite companies, and positions? I can't imagine going to all this trouble for a java programming position at a regional insurance company or something similar.

This is the process for almost every company, not just FAANGS.

And is this the process for other roles; marketing, sales, finance, etc, or is this a tech self-inflicted curse?

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome job search exhaustion?

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Post by antisthenes »

Kranar wrote: post #78
deckard1 wrote: post #23

There's a lot of woo-woo going on in this thread. You need to find the actual problem. You're making it to the interview, so all these companies feel you're at least minimally qualified for the job. Are you just getting unlucky that all these companies are in a hiring freeze and aren't willing to commit right now? Have you changed up your interviewing, tried anything new? Are you having further post-interview discuss…

>There may be something going on that you're not aware of and interviewers don't want to tell you. This is absolutely key, and when OP says something like: "I often get praises during interviews, but never an offer." I kind of feel bad because honestly, many people will give praise to a person just to kind of end the conversation, and I will admit to being guilty of it myself. It avoids the situation where you then h…

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Re: Ask HN: How to overcome job search exhaustion?

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Post by sage76 »

jacknews wrote: post #127
sage76 wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the process for almost every company, not just FAANGS.

And is this the process for other roles; marketing, sales, finance, etc, or is this a tech self-inflicted curse?

I don't know about others. I know a few doctors, like a friend who is an emergency physician.

He was hired after 1 hour long interview, and he could start next monday.

Re: Ask HN: How to overcome job search exhaustion?

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Post by ilc »

sage76 wrote: post #119
ilc wrote: post #69

Principal Software Engineer here, 25+ years, been a team lead, and architect. Frankly: You are "on tilt." Every interview you take right now, you are throwing out an opportunity. "It looks like I will be unemployed until the next year and I have no idea how to get a job." - This is a self fulfilling prophecy. If you believe that... stop interviewing and rest, let yourself recover from the burnout and grind of intervi…

> Go back to the leetcode grind, make sure you are RAZOR sharp. Make sure you learn from the stuff people post to brag. Start writing stuff you'd brag about This could take a LONG time, and where I live, career gaps are a killer.

Took me 1.5 months, after what was effectively a 3 year misstep. I took a 6 month gap.

Note, I didn't say you have to write stuff you'd brag about every time. Just be able to do it sometimes.

Pro tip: Use python. Even if you don't use the language normally. It is so good at the questions used in leetcode.

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