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India fines Google $162M for anti-competitive practices on Android

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Re: India fines Google $162M for anti-competitive practices on Android

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Post by danuker »

sophacles wrote: post #57
danuker wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> adwarecrap You mean Google bundling their apps with spyware, then sending me ads based on the info gathered is not adwarecrap?

Its adware. It's also better than a lot of apps that fall into the crap category. For instance, maps will show me maps that are farily accurate. Many of the bundled apps i would get in the past - verizon maps or whatever - weren't actually able to do their purported job, just display ads until crash.

In the past few years, the Google experience has been devolving. GMail loads a ton of JS, app sizes are larger and apps are slower, and Maps won't even show me the name of the town I'm currently in, while navigating (and the UI is terrible).

If it weren't for traffic data and good geocoding, I'd be using OsmAnd all the time (the overall UX is about the same).

Re: India fines Google $162M for anti-competitive practices on Android

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Post by bombolo »

heavyset_go wrote: post #95
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody cares about Chromebooks. They only matter in schools and they're almost certainly illegal in schools, so that will self-solve when those charges get addressed.

Illegal how?

Minors can't consent to being spied on. And being a school to which they are obligated by law to go, they can't be forced to consent even if they could consent.

Re: India fines Google $162M for anti-competitive practices on Android

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Post by hef19898 »

2Gkashmiri wrote: post #143
hef19898 wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is not just a problem when it comes to app permissions...

what do you mean?

That there seems to be a general problem in society to accept that no actually means no. And not a "no, but sure maybe just try harder".

Re: India fines Google $162M for anti-competitive practices on Android

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Post by hda2 »

another_devy wrote: post #132
empathygeezer wrote: post #130

Imagine suing Linus Torvalds for giving something away for free and having the audacity of rejecting pull requests.

Linus Torvalds is not gate keeping official browser, search engine, maps and even package manager for linux. Also I don’t think he is making billions by allowing people to fork and yet not change kernel

I think a more accurate analogy would be that Linus is not preventing OEMs from selling computers with other operating systems cougooglegh, or coercing or forcing them into preventing users from switching to other operating systems ahmicrosoftm, or abusing their dominance in other markets to gain an absurd and unfair advantage in unrelated markets cougooglegh.

Heavens me, my cough is acting up. I wonder why. I'm glad other countries stepped up and are starting to regulate these companies since the US is obviously refusing to do so.

In all ser

Re: India fines Google $162M for anti-competitive practices on Android

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Post by rushikesh98 »

homelessgolden wrote: post #105

Don’t expect anything to happen immediately. This order will be appealed and Google will take it up to the Indian Supreme Court. 2/3 more years till it all gets resolved. Most likely parts of this order will get rescinded blin appeal. I don’t see the whole thing going away and certainly there is impact on Google’s business practices. However this will take time to play out. In the next 2/3 years Google will try to wo…

Google has only 2 months to appeal to SC. And the govt will most likely get the appeal dismissed by the SC immediately.

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Post by vntok »

bombolo wrote: post #144
heavyset_go wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Illegal how?

Minors can't consent to being spied on. And being a school to which they are obligated by law to go, they can't be forced to consent even if they could consent.

Their parents are consenting.

Re: India fines Google $162M for anti-competitive practices on Android

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Post by homelessgolden »

rushikesh98 wrote: post #147
homelessgolden wrote: post #105

Don’t expect anything to happen immediately. This order will be appealed and Google will take it up to the Indian Supreme Court. 2/3 more years till it all gets resolved. Most likely parts of this order will get rescinded blin appeal. I don’t see the whole thing going away and certainly there is impact on Google’s business practices. However this will take time to play out. In the next 2/3 years Google will try to wo…

Google has only 2 months to appeal to SC. And the govt will most likely get the appeal dismissed by the SC immediately.

It is a long process. They can appeal as a first step to the Competition Appellate Tribunal. Then after that to SC. Then even if the appeals are all dismissed they will get some time to comply. Don’t expect the entire ruling to stand as is during this process and don’t expect any actual on the ground changes for a 2/3 years more.

Re: India fines Google $162M for anti-competitive practices on Android

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Post by Razengan »

musicale wrote: post #67
planetsprite wrote: post #64

If "platform" companies like Apple, Google, Microsoft weren't capable of advantaging themselves via anti-competitive practices, their stock values wouldn't be nearly as high. Their implicit leverage over the markets they oversee via their OSes is the core of why they are the biggest companies in the world. Fines are a cost of doing business, hardly a deterrent when your product (your OS) is the conduit through which…

Microsoft's OS dominance through Windows is probably why Windows Phone is so successful, right? ;-) Presumably Apple also leveraged the Mac's unquestioned dominance of the PC space to enable the iPhone to beat established incumbents like Nokia, Blackberry and Palm. And Android undoubtedly became popular primarily because of Google's dominance in web search. I can't believe government regulators let these companies ge…

To those it's not clear to: Note that the parent comment is sarcasm.
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