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San Francisco is spending $1.7M on one public toilet

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Re: San Francisco is spending $1.7M on one public toilet

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post #272

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I think I'd take my chances with the sidewalk than risk a startups new self cleaning censor. Literally a shit storm

All the toilets in Paris self-clean between users. You don't need the sensor to work not to get sprayed, just to exit the toilet when a voice says "EXIT THE TOILET NOW, THE SELF CLEANING PROCESS IS ABOUT TO BEGIN.

Kinda hard to do when you’re nodding out on the floor.

Re: San Francisco is spending $1.7M on one public toilet

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> “They told me $1.7 million, and I got $1.7 million,” Haney explained. “I didn’t have the option of bringing home less of the bacon when it comes to building a toilet. A half a toilet or a toilet-maybe-someday is not much use to anyone.”

Did he not know how to bargain?

He just paid whatever amount people asked him to pay?

Re: San Francisco is spending $1.7M on one public toilet

#693

Price doesn’t seem that outrageous to me. Public bathrooms in cities get destroyed and are very difficult to maintain; a lot of cities give up on free restrooms entirely. One of the biggest perks of working downtown in a moderately sized or larger city is being able to go to the bathroom there outside of work hours. I priced out some relatively minor kitchen/bathroom renovation work in 2018 at around $100k. Put it of…

> I priced out some relatively minor kitchen/bathroom renovation work in 2018 at around $100k

I still don't see how that will justify the 1.7m public toilet because someone spent 6 figure on minor renovation work.

Re: San Francisco is spending $1.7M on one public toilet

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> “They told me $1.7 million, and I got $1.7 million,” Haney explained. “I didn’t have the option of bringing home less of the bacon when it comes to building a toilet. A half a toilet or a toilet-maybe-someday is not much use to anyone.” Did he not know how to bargain? He just paid whatever amount people asked him to pay?

He wasn’t in a position to bargain - which seems part of the problem.

Re: San Francisco is spending $1.7M on one public toilet

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post #642

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I'm not an American, but can/would people sue for getting washed in a self-cleaning toilet? Surely some signs and disclosures would be sufficient?

They’d be injecting hard drugs, especially fentanyl, constantly in this toilet, so signs and disclosures won’t mean much. SF is a rather “special” place, you can’t easily compare to other international cities.

Are people really shooting up on the streets in Noe Valley? I kept hearing it’s the one nice part of the city.

Re: San Francisco is spending $1.7M on one public toilet

#697

One of the reasons this toilet is so expensive no doubt, is that the new SF public toilets are self cleaning and will have attendants on duty to try to prevent this. The one on golden gate park and Haight closes after each visitor to spray the inside down like a dishwasher, and has an attendant on duty to make sure no one is inside while it does that (and to generally discourage people from shady stuff). It's not per…

These were the type of public toilets in France, it was actually very interesting to see and a bit confusing as I couldn't figure out why I couldn't go in right after another person... Wonder if it cost Paris 1.7 mil as well?

Don’t the ones in Paris cost money?

Re: San Francisco is spending $1.7M on one public toilet

#698
post #160

Why is it that the deepest blue areas of the country have some of the most abject inequity and poverty? It seems that there's a fine line between compassion and enablement when it comes to the deep blue municipalities of New York, Chicago, San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, etc. Sure the rustbelt, deep south, and Appalachia are areas with similar problems and mixed politics, but they also somehow feel different.

Chicago and New York do not belong in the same category as Seattle and SF. Chicago is orders of magnitude better than seattle wrt inequality and poverty

Chicago is orders of magnitude worse with crime.

Re: San Francisco is spending $1.7M on one public toilet

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6 million million?

6 million. Slipped my mind that MM is industry specific. M is ambiguous between the Roman (M = 1,000), the SI prefix (M = 1,000,000), and metres (screen readers). $1MM (capitalized) or $1mn (more recent) reduces the ambiguity. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MM#Units_of_measurement

M is not ambiguous at all it stands for mega which is 1e6 (which happens to be a million).

Meters is lowercase m. And nobody uses Roman numerals as a suffix. MM is just unnecessary.

Re: San Francisco is spending $1.7M on one public toilet

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post #611

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6 million million?

MM = "mille mille" = "thousand thousand". You will be seeing this in many places.

I'd rather not. The second M is redundant. M stands for mega (SI suffix) which is equal to 1e6.
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