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India fines Google $162M for anti-competitive practices on Android

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Re: India fines Google $162M for anti-competitive practices on Android

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Post by syrrim »

tatpacc wrote: post #4

Here is the link to original order [ https://www.cci.gov.in/antitrust/press-release/details/261/0 ] some experts 13. Accordingly, in terms of the provisions of Section 27 of the Act, the Commission has imposed monetary penalty as well as issued cease and desist order against Google from indulging in anti-competitive practices that have been found to be in contravention of the provisions of Section 4 of the Act. Some…

Christ, google must be kicking themselves for being so permissive with android. Unless they impose similar requirements on apple, this seems like a punishment for being as permissive as they are.

Re: India fines Google $162M for anti-competitive practices on Android

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Post by [deleted] »

tatpacc wrote: post #42
sremani wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah! the whole theory that Reliance is a BJP's poodle. Go back and look 1986 Cricket World Cup and what is it named.. and .. you got it right, Reliance Cup. The Ambanis are no one's poodles all Indian Politicians are their poodles. The monumental growth of Reliance from a small textile company to a petro-chemical behemoth to a huge conglomerate happened under the rule of Indian National Congress.

> The Ambanis are no one's poodles all Indian Politicians are their poodles. I am not denying that. But the way, current government is working, good luck with current situation improving anymore. And BJP or Congress or any other party politicians, especially in India, like to enjoy absolute control over citizens. So by some miracle if other party got in power in future then also they will not work to correct wrong do…

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Re: India fines Google $162M for anti-competitive practices on Android

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Post by TheCoelacanth »

syrrim wrote: post #51
tatpacc wrote: post #4

Here is the link to original order [ https://www.cci.gov.in/antitrust/press-release/details/261/0 ] some experts 13. Accordingly, in terms of the provisions of Section 27 of the Act, the Commission has imposed monetary penalty as well as issued cease and desist order against Google from indulging in anti-competitive practices that have been found to be in contravention of the provisions of Section 4 of the Act. Some…

Christ, google must be kicking themselves for being so permissive with android. Unless they impose similar requirements on apple, this seems like a punishment for being as permissive as they are.

iPhone has a tiny market share in India. They probably don't consider them large enough to be worth regulating.

Re: India fines Google $162M for anti-competitive practices on Android

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Post by danuker »

keewee7 wrote: post #14

Good in theory but Google's Android apps and Google forbidding Indian telcom companies and Chinese smartphone manufactures from installing adwarecrap has made the ultra-cheap smartphone experience somewhat tolerable for hundreds of millions of people. It's all going to be insufferable adware hell from now on.

> adwarecrap

You mean Google bundling their apps with spyware, then sending me ads based on the info gathered is not adwarecrap?

Re: India fines Google $162M for anti-competitive practices on Android

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Post by Nextgrid »

asadlionpk wrote: post #2

India following EU to claim a piece of that ad money.

I don't mind governments taking ad money even if they were outright stealing it, because if anything it puts pressure on companies not to deal with ads at all which would be a net benefit to society, productivity and mental health worldwide.

I like having the option of buying products that have nothing to do with ads - unfortunately in the current situation, everything has at least some ties to this industry, so effectively we currently don't have a choice regardless of whether we're willing to pay. This kind of pressure will hopefully change this.

Re: India fines Google $162M for anti-competitive practices on Android

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Post by db1234 »

webmobdev wrote: post #3

The Competition Commission of India, which began investigating Google several years ago after complaints from local firms, said in a press release that Google requiring device manufacturers to pre-install its entire Google Mobile Suite and mandating prominent placement of those apps “amounts to imposition of unfair condition on the device manufacturers” and thus was in “contravention of the provisions of Section 4(2)…

Check out ONDC https://fortune.com/2022/08/02/why-india-could-single-handed...

It's like UPI but for e-commerce. We can expect companies like Amazon to make noise about this.

Re: India fines Google $162M for anti-competitive practices on Android

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Post by sophacles »

danuker wrote: post #54
keewee7 wrote: post #14

Good in theory but Google's Android apps and Google forbidding Indian telcom companies and Chinese smartphone manufactures from installing adwarecrap has made the ultra-cheap smartphone experience somewhat tolerable for hundreds of millions of people. It's all going to be insufferable adware hell from now on.

> adwarecrap You mean Google bundling their apps with spyware, then sending me ads based on the info gathered is not adwarecrap?

Its adware. It's also better than a lot of apps that fall into the crap category. For instance, maps will show me maps that are farily accurate. Many of the bundled apps i would get in the past - verizon maps or whatever - weren't actually able to do their purported job, just display ads until crash.

Re: India fines Google $162M for anti-competitive practices on Android

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Post by einpoklum »

IceWreck wrote: post #36

> ix. Google shall allow the developers of app stores to distribute their app stores through Play Store. This is huge if google follows through

Not that huge. If, however, phone distributors would start providing non-Google app download hubs / stores as the default - _that_ would be more serious.

Re: India fines Google $162M for anti-competitive practices on Android

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Post by simion314 »

syrrim wrote: post #51
tatpacc wrote: post #4

Here is the link to original order [ https://www.cci.gov.in/antitrust/press-release/details/261/0 ] some experts 13. Accordingly, in terms of the provisions of Section 27 of the Act, the Commission has imposed monetary penalty as well as issued cease and desist order against Google from indulging in anti-competitive practices that have been found to be in contravention of the provisions of Section 4 of the Act. Some…

Christ, google must be kicking themselves for being so permissive with android. Unless they impose similar requirements on apple, this seems like a punishment for being as permissive as they are.

Apple is not selling iOS to Samsung with extra conditions like : you should not offer other operating systems or you should not pre-install our competitors", "you should not make our apps uninstallable"

Apple is breaching the rules but in a different way

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