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Endonuclease fingerprint indicates a synthetic origin of SARS-CoV-2?
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Re: Endonuclease fingerprint indicates a synthetic origin of SARS-CoV-2?
#22Genuinely surprises me that there are people out there who think or have been persuaded the virus is of natural origin. The lab right next to the market was literally studying and experimenting with the exact same type of virus. How can a someone think that that's just a coincidence?
Add that to the fact that the funding for that research lab was approved by the same guy who become the de facto thought leader on the virus in the U.S., AND funded by the foundation of one of the most recognizable American billionaires. To put the cherry on top, even suggesting a synthetic origin resulted in bans on most social platforms!
This stuff is common sense...Occam's razor comes to mind. No wonder there were so many "conspiracy theories".
Re: Endonuclease fingerprint indicates a synthetic origin of SARS-CoV-2?
#23Genuinely surprises me that there are people out there who think or have been persuaded the virus is of natural origin. The lab right next to the market was literally studying and experimenting with the exact same type of virus. How can a someone think that that's just a coincidence? Add that to the fact that the funding for that research lab was approved by the same guy who become the de facto thought leader on the…
My Occam's razor says that every other virus has a natural origin, why wouldnt this one too? Maybe your razor needs sharpening?
Re: Endonuclease fingerprint indicates a synthetic origin of SARS-CoV-2?
#24There are at least a couple of suspicious points in this study: First and foremost the central claim is that 5 potential restriction binding sites versus 2 means that SARS-CoV2 is non natural. That does not necessarily follow. Just as SARS-CoV2 is unusually infectious and damaging to humans it could just happen to have an additional 3 restriction binding sites. So there is nothing inconsistent with natural selection…
I really don't see how saying that the pandemic was a bad thing and that there is value in understanding its origin is "a dangerous level of sloppiness".
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#25I Honestly thought it was common belief that corona come from that lab in china. But now after reading this, I searched a bit and read up on it and I guess it is still a somewhat honest debate on the topic. Even if it was lab made, it would be sort of stupid to dig in to it, due to the political nature of the matter. What happened happened, most likely the release would have been accidental, so why play blame games.
I don't think it's all about blame, knowing it came from a lab would also pull into question the practice of engineering viruses and the safety and security standards required.
True, it would be helpful in that kind of way. The risks does seam to outweigh the benefits.
That said, the blame game would still be there, and people would pull that card...
Re: Endonuclease fingerprint indicates a synthetic origin of SARS-CoV-2?
#26Genuinely surprises me that there are people out there who think or have been persuaded the virus is of natural origin. The lab right next to the market was literally studying and experimenting with the exact same type of virus. How can a someone think that that's just a coincidence? Add that to the fact that the funding for that research lab was approved by the same guy who become the de facto thought leader on the…
My Occam's razor says that every other virus has a natural origin, why wouldnt this one too? Maybe your razor needs sharpening?
How can you prove that natural origin is the hypothesis selected by the razor in this particular case?
Re: Endonuclease fingerprint indicates a synthetic origin of SARS-CoV-2?
#27Genuinely surprises me that there are people out there who think or have been persuaded the virus is of natural origin. The lab right next to the market was literally studying and experimenting with the exact same type of virus. How can a someone think that that's just a coincidence? Add that to the fact that the funding for that research lab was approved by the same guy who become the de facto thought leader on the…
My Occam's razor says that every other virus has a natural origin, why wouldnt this one too? Maybe your razor needs sharpening?
> My Occam's razor says that every other virus has a natural origin, why wouldnt this one too?
That's simply not true. There's an entire branch of virology dedicated to synthetic viruses; the first was made over 20 years ago.
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#28Genuinely surprises me that there are people out there who think or have been persuaded the virus is of natural origin. The lab right next to the market was literally studying and experimenting with the exact same type of virus. How can a someone think that that's just a coincidence? Add that to the fact that the funding for that research lab was approved by the same guy who become the de facto thought leader on the…
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagan_standard
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. This is why people are skeptical.
Re: Endonuclease fingerprint indicates a synthetic origin of SARS-CoV-2?
#29Genuinely surprises me that there are people out there who think or have been persuaded the virus is of natural origin. The lab right next to the market was literally studying and experimenting with the exact same type of virus. How can a someone think that that's just a coincidence? Add that to the fact that the funding for that research lab was approved by the same guy who become the de facto thought leader on the…
I have the opposite Occam's razor thoughts. My opinion is we are not capable of developing in a lab a virus that is so transmissible and survivable in human species only. I think the complexity of the virus machinery and its interactions inside of our bodies and immune system is beyond astronomical in complexity. It's laughable to suggest that we are so intelligent as to invent a better version of the machinery that is hypothesized as the very machinery responsible for creation of multi cellular life itself.
Re: Endonuclease fingerprint indicates a synthetic origin of SARS-CoV-2?
#30Genuinely surprises me that there are people out there who think or have been persuaded the virus is of natural origin. The lab right next to the market was literally studying and experimenting with the exact same type of virus. How can a someone think that that's just a coincidence? Add that to the fact that the funding for that research lab was approved by the same guy who become the de facto thought leader on the…
My Occam's razor says that every other virus has a natural origin, why wouldnt this one too? Maybe your razor needs sharpening?
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