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> Sometimes they are on Twitter, then you need to be there. Wow, that's a depressing thought. I think I'd prefer to find a different line of business, if it were me.

What lines of business don’t require customers being able to find you?

government contracting and b2b services

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that is not political censorship, it is illegal for US businesses to do business with Russia because of sanctions. The sanctions themselves are political, but not following them is not a choice for US businesses.

My trigger was not Russia, it was de-platforming of Parler. I kinda care more about my life in the US and consider political de-platforming an extremely dangerous development. A “trigger” caused by my “living experience” as my son interprets it (but I think it’s more logical than that).

The way I see it, Parler wasn't deplatformed.

Parler could have rented a building, bought servers, racked and stacked those servers, networked them and gotten connectivity to the world. They didn't, they leased servers as a service from others, and then got burned when those services decided they were uncomfortable with the vitriolic anonymous speech being hosted on their hardware.

Had they truly built their own platform, no one could have taken from them. (It'd be lots harder anyhow)

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> Sometimes they are on Twitter, then you need to be there. Wow, that's a depressing thought. I think I'd prefer to find a different line of business, if it were me.

What lines of business don’t require customers being able to find you?

Bounty hunter; you find them.

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Ben's account is already un-suspended, but only because he has a major presence and large audience (I would be shocked if people at Twitter didn't see this minutes into it happening or if Ben didn't have some direct line to various high up employees there). For the rest of us peasants: good luck getting help.

Yeah completely matches my experience. Twitter banned my account for far less and unlike Ben, I dont have major presence or large audience. I wrote about my experience on the blog [0] so others can learn but what I learned is that there is an automated system to flag and automated system to respond to your questions and the later system rejects 99.99% of cases. You have to be in Ben's position to fall into that .01%

[0] https://thinkingthrough.substack.com/p/twitter-ban

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There were extremists on the site making calls to violence. A *private* entity deciding they don’t want to do business with a company because of that is neither censorship as a society would consider it nor is it problematic. More people and businesses should be willing to refuse business to entities that seek to harass, abuse, or promote violence to another group of people. What you’re worried about is governmental…

Your logic is flawed on many levels, and I will be glad to parse the errors after I have my breakfast and nothing more important emerges. Just one point for now: > What you’re worried about is governmental action and is not equivalent here. My kids tried to point me in the same direction. I’ve just pointed them to the router and said: I am a private citizen paying for Internet connection in this house. In 24 hours th…

> I said: exactly my point.

They're both not government action, but they're very different kinds. There's a huge difference between "I will not assist this entity" and "I will stop other people from assisting this entity".

Along similar lines, I am deeply upset with the level of power that payment processors have/use around censorship. But I don't care too much what AWS does.

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This is my experience too, I honestly believe that for anyone using twitter being permanently suspended is the best thing that can happen to them. It's just an awful place. Spam, bots, fake stories, constant outrage. It's miserable but people seem to become addicted.

Twitter taught me to suppress the impulse to react with snark to things or share only negative opinions. The app does incite these compulsions in me, but I've realized over time it's not just Twitter, I could stand to be a nicer person in general. Since then I only let myself post on Twitter if I have something neutral or nice to say. I don't always succeed but I think I've legit grown thanks to this and by extension…

The old saw "if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all", basically.

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Wrong tree to bark up. "Permanently" only means there is no time limit with an automatic reactivation afterwards. It's absolutely possible for a "normie" to get a permanent ban reviewed and lifted.

The point is that they're using "permanently suspended" to mean "indefinitely suspended". They could also just say "suspended".

"Indefinitely suspended" might be better, but just "suspended" is probably going to be very confusing. In education, for example, "suspension" is a temporary ban, and "expulsion" is a permanent ban.

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He also provides RSS feeds. The Twitter feed is a convenience. Reducing the demand for Twitter notifications is beyond the ability of creators/publishers.

Yeah, it's a shame that social network apps, which have largely supplanted feed reader apps, never integrated RSS feeds into their products

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic. Twitter had RSS support and killed it about a decade ago in pursuit of their strategy to grow by hurting the third party ecosystem that had grown around Twitter. I still find that decision to be disappointing.

Some RSS readers support following Twitter accounts, but they use the third party app API. I personally follow Twitter accounts in NewsBlur.

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So, this all falls under the category heading of "this private company's product or service is now too important to have it denied for arbitrary or unclear reasons". This is, in fact, not a new problem; we even have a word for this kind of good or service: "utility". There was a time when phone service, electricity, etc. was just an ordinary private company that you contracted with, who could do whatever private comp…

Which country will regulate a multinational social media? How will countries that are unhappy with the descisions of [the US] court descisions appeal? This problem goes deeper than you would hope to think, but I agree that they must be treated like utilities.

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At this point in time I think I am comfortable saying the web is more detrimental to humans than Television ever was.

The web was great back when it was mostly read-only. You could comment and share, but only via email, so only to people you likely knew. Yes, I remember chain mails from 1997, but those were rare, maybe 2x a year. You probably saw that many dumb posts in the last 5 minutes of scrolling Twitter/FB/IG. Once social media replaced bookmarks, people went there to find new links. And eventually, when SM de-ranked posts wit…

> The web was great back when it was mostly read-only.

???

Justin Hall's call to arms "HTML is easy as hell"[0] was written nearly 30 years ago. The cycle Hall promoted is non-centralized, noncommercial and read-write.

0. http://www.links.net/webpub/

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