Everyday is like a new Ubuntu release on Arch Linux and in 8 years I've only had to boot into a rescue environment one time and it was due to me using a non-standard configuration.
Everybody has a story like that about every distro ever
Ubuntu 22.10 Kinetic Kudu
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Re: Ubuntu 22.10 Kinetic Kudu
#12I looked for the 22.10 download a few hours ago and didn't see it so I did a Google search and found today's comment about it possibly being delayed: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1436351/when-will-ubuntu-22-...
Re: Ubuntu 22.10 Kinetic Kudu
#13I used to use Ubuntu for everything and was very happy in the massive Ubuntu ecosystem with a .deb for everything till I was forced to use Snap a few releases ago for installing even some basic utils I used on a daily basis. I then had Snap constantly hang on installs and just break for no apparent reason and waste my time debugging it. It didn't "just work" anymore. Swapped to Arch and haven't looked back yet, Arch…
Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu but does not use snap. Doing "a lot more work" to install an OS does not sound appealing.
Yeah, setting up arch for the first time takes time. For newbie users it is definitely not appealing process, and also I would not recommend it. It's not a long process, but you do everything yourself and all this in the terminal (no GUI installer).
I learned a lot about linux when I decided to try Arch. And as OP, I also never looked back :)
Re: Ubuntu 22.10 Kinetic Kudu
#14I used to use Ubuntu for everything and was very happy in the massive Ubuntu ecosystem with a .deb for everything till I was forced to use Snap a few releases ago for installing even some basic utils I used on a daily basis. I then had Snap constantly hang on installs and just break for no apparent reason and waste my time debugging it. It didn't "just work" anymore. Swapped to Arch and haven't looked back yet, Arch…
For me it is just Firefox that I don't want in snap form. The Mozilla team still puts out a .deb version via PPA [0]. You should probably also pin to this source so that the snaps don't get installed [1].
[0] https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field...
[1] https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/04/how-to-install-firefox-d...
Re: Ubuntu 22.10 Kinetic Kudu
#15I used to use Ubuntu for everything and was very happy in the massive Ubuntu ecosystem with a .deb for everything till I was forced to use Snap a few releases ago for installing even some basic utils I used on a daily basis. I then had Snap constantly hang on installs and just break for no apparent reason and waste my time debugging it. It didn't "just work" anymore. Swapped to Arch and haven't looked back yet, Arch…
I also use Ubuntu a lot, and while I'm disappointed about this Snap thing, I'm still not looking for alternatives.
At least until 22.04 I could dodge snaps pretty easily, but now, since Firefox is now a snap package, things went worse, at least for me. I gave it a try and, while the experience was not as bad as I feared, I soon encountered problems with things like trying to use a smartcard reader for signing documents, something that used to work out of the box with the non sanboxed version of Firefox and now it's broken with snaps (or at least some weeks ago).
I ended up downloading a Firefox tarball from the official site. I know you can use a PPA for that, but I don't feel comfortable having software as critical as a web browser from a third-party Ubuntu PPA.
Maybe I should give Pop OS a try...
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Re: Ubuntu 22.10 Kinetic Kudu
#17I used to use Ubuntu for everything and was very happy in the massive Ubuntu ecosystem with a .deb for everything till I was forced to use Snap a few releases ago for installing even some basic utils I used on a daily basis. I then had Snap constantly hang on installs and just break for no apparent reason and waste my time debugging it. It didn't "just work" anymore. Swapped to Arch and haven't looked back yet, Arch…
Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu but does not use snap. Doing "a lot more work" to install an OS does not sound appealing.
Installing Arch with the cli installer [1] is pretty straightforward these days. It only becomes a lot more work if you have very specific preferences on partition layouts, filesystems and bootloaders. In my experience, changing these things on Ubuntu was even more difficult and less documented.
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#18of course the only comments so far are people complaining that Ubuntu sucks and their $PREFERRED_DISTRO is better I for one think Steam as a snap is a great idea, and was pleasantly surprised with them taking the feedback about the Firefox snap to heart and actually putting in the work to speed it up. I was gonna install 22.04.1 tonight (finally got fedup with Windows) but I'm gonna try this tonight instead and defin…
>less I need to boot into Windows to play PC games the better.
Hard to give up smoking with a pack in your pocket.
Re: Ubuntu 22.10 Kinetic Kudu
#19I upgraded from Ubuntu 20.04 to 22.04 recently, and am experiencing issues where Firefox feels sluggish and X hangs for a second when I type in the terminal too quickly. Makes me wanna move away from Ubuntu. Also the idea of these major updates where the package manager mutates half the filesystem for 30 minutes straight sounds like a super brittle procedure, and snaps seem to address this, except that it feels wrong to have every package vendor its deps. I'd like to have nixos without the learning curve please...
Re: Ubuntu 22.10 Kinetic Kudu
#20I used to use Ubuntu for everything and was very happy in the massive Ubuntu ecosystem with a .deb for everything till I was forced to use Snap a few releases ago for installing even some basic utils I used on a daily basis. I then had Snap constantly hang on installs and just break for no apparent reason and waste my time debugging it. It didn't "just work" anymore. Swapped to Arch and haven't looked back yet, Arch…
Same, but I went with Debian as I wanted to stay in the .deb world.