A novel solution: what about a hose into the ground with a large opening, and a 3/4 blind, maybe mounted on a tree, or post.
Feces is another issue but … urinating is something we can solve.
San Francisco is spending $1.7M on one public toilet
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Re: San Francisco is spending $1.7M on one public toilet
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
Red tape and nimbyism is hard to imagine from what I see of SFO in books, it seems like the most anti-diversity thing you can do. Can anybody from SFO relate their experience? Hard to tell these days what is editorial bias or sensationalism and what is true.
SFO is the airport. I'm very confused by this comment. We're not all working at Google right now. MTV, SFO, MPK and all of this lingo is not familiar to all
SFO is commonly a shorthand for San Francisco, LA for Los Angeles, SD for San Diego.
Re: San Francisco is spending $1.7M on one public toilet
#113> San Francisco, which is struggling with a troubling homelessness and public-defecation crisis, needs more public toilets. The irony in this statement, given the reasons why this toilet costs so much, is absolutely unreal. I had to check the date on this article to make sure it wasn't an old April's Fools skit or something, but it seems red tape and NIMBYism have escalated to such a degree in SF that (a) securing bu…
Red tape and nimbyism is hard to imagine from what I see of SFO in books, it seems like the most anti-diversity thing you can do. Can anybody from SFO relate their experience? Hard to tell these days what is editorial bias or sensationalism and what is true.
I lived in the bay for a year. the city is for the winners of the startup and stock lottery and those who want to rent to be near them.
100% believe this.
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> Taxation is stupid.
To some extent I agree.
> ... US Governments have the worst value-delivered-per-dollar-collected ...
Can you give me your reference for this?
Looking at [0] the lowest & highest marginal tax rates, cross referenced with citizen happiness [1], USA does not seem to be the worst, but you might have better reference data.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_rates [1] https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/happiest-...
Re: San Francisco is spending $1.7M on one public toilet
#115It's actually cheap. 3 years of litigation until all the stakeholders agree on all the aspects of this public toilet are not cheap. And what if the environmental reviews find a bunny family living at the proposed location? Relocating the bunny family will probably cost another million and 2 years of delay.
It's like when an org needs to add a button to their website and it takes 20 meetings to get the okay.
It's inefficient, ineffective and definitely not cheap.
When many hands, many meetings, and definitely many layers of middleman are involved, it'll cost millions to build a single toilet.
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#117It's very expensive to defecate in San Francisco...
Remind me of the $60k/tent in San Francisco for the homeless... San Francisco is not corrupt at all: "S.F. spends more than $60K per tent at homeless sites. Now it’s being asked for another $15 million for the program"
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What is your proposed alternative?
For this, let private companies install public pay toilets. Let activists fund free pay toilet passes for the homeless/poor.
Eventually there should be a couple brands of private public toilets where some are essentially free (lets say you own a business in an area with no public washrooms, it may be a financial benefit to you to sponsor a public toilet) and others are more luxury with higher prices to keep the riff raff out and fund more public ones.
There is a market solution if the government gets out of the way.
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#119I do not believe this type of public theft is due to incompetence, I believe it is corruption and grift
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#120Paris has automatically self-cleaning public toilets all around and they cost around $200k each to build and install. There’s no way this is a remotely reasonable cost and is clearly a grift.
Whats the incentive to get it done fast or cheap when you don't have to answer for what you spend and the general public is threatened with incarceration if they don't pay you.