DevOps is broken

So a symbol i.e. "DevOps" gets corrupted. What do you do? Make a new symbol, like the author is suggesting? Or try to reclaim the term? This happens time and again and I find the question fascinating.

FWIW, "Platform Engineering" used to be something different than what the author is suggesting.

Re: DevOps is broken

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Post by arvindamirtaa » Thu, Oct 20, 2022, 3:10 PM UTC

giantg2 wrote: post #2

"DevOps Is Bullshit" Wait until you meet DevSecOps...

I LOLd for this one.

Re: DevOps is broken

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Post by hden » Thu, Oct 20, 2022, 3:10 PM UTC

counttheforks wrote: post #4

> The problem is most engineers don’t want to do operations work. There's your problem. You have people who build stuff without caring where and how it runs. Recipe for disaster.

Sounds like a cultural problem and/or hiring problem.

Re: DevOps is broken

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Post by AlgorithmicTime » Thu, Oct 20, 2022, 3:11 PM UTC

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Re: DevOps is broken

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Post by mandelbrotwurst » Thu, Oct 20, 2022, 3:11 PM UTC

counttheforks wrote: post #4

> The problem is most engineers don’t want to do operations work. There's your problem. You have people who build stuff without caring where and how it runs. Recipe for disaster.

Equally common I think are engineers who care where and how things run, but are either disincentivized from or even disallowed from working on those aspects of systems.

Re: DevOps is broken

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Post by dunno7456 » Thu, Oct 20, 2022, 3:11 PM UTC

counttheforks wrote: post #4

> The problem is most engineers don’t want to do operations work. There's your problem. You have people who build stuff without caring where and how it runs. Recipe for disaster.

> There's your problem. You have people who build stuff without caring where and how it runs. Recipe for disaster.

Spot on, but not only that, also decisions made based on number of hands in a room.