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Poll: Do you use an adblocker?

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Re: Poll: Do you use an adblocker?

#201

Used to be the first thing I install, but no more. There was a transition period where I would not install it but had a flashblock; my reasoning being that the flashblocker took away most of the really annoying ones. My new policy is a clean install. So many advantages: I rather like experiencing sites as intended (as well as supporting sites) rather than trying to force my will onto sites. I used to run into so many…

I run a locked down browser with lots of privacy and security extensions for my personal use then sandbox a unmodified chrome instance for viewing ads on unfiltered pages for work use.

Re: Poll: Do you use an adblocker?

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I'm using ghostery to block pretty much everything, but I'm not happy with that solution. Blocking all advertising isn't what I really want to do. Yes ads are annoying, but I consider them payment for the service. What I cannot accept is ad networks, social networks and anlytics tools tracking me all across the internet. Unfortunately tracking, advertising and analytics are too intertwined to be more selective. At le…

Have a look at: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/requestpolicy It breaks a lot of sites at first but once you've used it for a while, allowing connections to CDN's and such, it isn't that bad. It's probably a case of paranoia, but now I feel "exposed" without it.

Request policy also defeats Cross site request forgery

Re: Poll: Do you use an adblocker?

#203

Trying to speak reason to HN on this is a lost cause. Look at the results of the poll so far: About 65% of HN use an adblocker. The general online population, only about 1% use an adblocker. HN is heavily heavily biased away from advertising. HN also mistakenly probably thinks it's because they're "early adopters" or more "technical". The truth is more like HN is in a bubble, anti-mainstream etc. If you did a poll on…

HN is heavily biased toward hackers and tweakers, in the sense of those who prefer to hack at and tweak their environments. Many, many, many moons ago I ran across a page which reported on user display resolution setting as reported via javascript. At a time when low-end equipment generally supported at least 800x600 and likely 1024x768 display, over 50% of users showed 480x640 . Which was the Windows default at the…

I don't think that's the explanation. Reddit is also heavily anti-corporation, anti-advertising, anti-mainstream. It's just the culture on HN and Reddit.

I've always been a hacker, tweaker etc. But I can't imagine how anything would work without advertising. And it's not something I find annoying or have trouble filtering out. It's like if you're walking down a street, and you see all the shop signs... If you're not interested, just keep walking.

Re: Poll: Do you use an adblocker?

#204
post #66

Banner ads pay my salary, so out of professional courtesy, no. It's very easy to voluntarily blind yourself to ads. Plus, if I see something egregious on my employer's site, I can let them know. I use Ghostery to see who's buying data from whom.

> It's very easy to voluntarily blind yourself to ads. So you do block ads, only with your brain ;) Fair enough, but can I ask why this is more courteous than blocking them in the browser? Are ad loads generally causing money to flow? I was under the impression that click-throughs cause revenue, rather than ad loads?

Part of it is competitive intelligence. I want to know who's doing big ad buys on Huffpo and FoxNews and the NYT.

Agencies have gotten very clever at measuring the indirect effect of ads; most of them don't get a direct click, of course, but you can still look at things like how likely someone was to search for your company's brand name the week after they saw the ad.

Re: Poll: Do you use an adblocker?

#205
post #45

First I used AdBlock and FlashBlock. Then I used AdBlock and NoScript. Then I stopped using AdBlock. What a shock that was. NoScript would still catch the nasty stuff and block those talking Flash ads, but it was much less noticeable. I don't use an adblocker now because it makes me feel out of touch with the reality of the regular user. I've been reconsidering lately, due to the proliferation of web crapware like Fa…

Sorry if I'm misunderstanding your request, but maybe ghostery is what you want

http://www.ghostery.com/download

Re: Poll: Do you use an adblocker?

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HN is heavily biased toward hackers and tweakers, in the sense of those who prefer to hack at and tweak their environments. Many, many, many moons ago I ran across a page which reported on user display resolution setting as reported via javascript. At a time when low-end equipment generally supported at least 800x600 and likely 1024x768 display, over 50% of users showed 480x640 . Which was the Windows default at the…

I don't think that's the explanation. Reddit is also heavily anti-corporation, anti-advertising, anti-mainstream. It's just the culture on HN and Reddit. I've always been a hacker, tweaker etc. But I can't imagine how anything would work without advertising. And it's not something I find annoying or have trouble filtering out. It's like if you're walking down a street, and you see all the shop signs... If you're not…

Alternatives to advertising:

- Patronage. It's how the arts survived for the first 2-3000 years of civilization.

- Mechanical royalties / automated syndication. It's how musical performances are licensed currently.

- Live performance. Asses in seats.

- Mixed-model revenues. The Economist splits its revenue share roughly into thirds of subscriptions, ads, and bespoke services (the Economist Intelligence Unit).

- Memberships. Public broadcasting, Consumer Reports, and similar systems rely on contributions and pledges.

- Mandatory licensing -- the BBC television tax model. I'm not arguing that it's a free market system, however it's demonstrably worked and fairly well for nearly 85 years.

There are a lot of models. Mass-market advertising applied well to mass-media broadcasting. It's been heavily pursued online, though advertising rates (low), click-through metrics (phenomenally low), technical means of avoidance (readily available if not widely applied), audience dispersal (high) all suggest it's not exactly a resounding success.

I'm not so convinced HN is as anti-corporate as you claim, though I'd color myself that way. It's that there's a very high level of technical expertise -- far more than is necessary to be aware of and successfully deploy ad blocking. Without both factors, you'll find low utilization of same, even with a high anti-corporate bent -- which isn't all that rare, really.

I'll stand by my first point: the general public is fearful and highly ignorant of the technology they use in general. Show me some stats to the contrary and I might find this conversation more interesting.

Re: Poll: Do you use an adblocker?

#207

Banner ads pay my salary, so out of professional courtesy, no. It's very easy to voluntarily blind yourself to ads. Plus, if I see something egregious on my employer's site, I can let them know. I use Ghostery to see who's buying data from whom.

I disable adblocker for independent blogs I read regularly.

Re: Poll: Do you use an adblocker?

#208

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I don't think that's the explanation. Reddit is also heavily anti-corporation, anti-advertising, anti-mainstream. It's just the culture on HN and Reddit. I've always been a hacker, tweaker etc. But I can't imagine how anything would work without advertising. And it's not something I find annoying or have trouble filtering out. It's like if you're walking down a street, and you see all the shop signs... If you're not…

Alternatives to advertising: - Patronage. It's how the arts survived for the first 2-3000 years of civilization. - Mechanical royalties / automated syndication. It's how musical performances are licensed currently. - Live performance. Asses in seats. - Mixed-model revenues. The Economist splits its revenue share roughly into thirds of subscriptions, ads, and bespoke services (the Economist Intelligence Unit). - Membe…

Your alternatives are for the income that hosting advertisements may provide. They are not alternatives for the service that advertising itself provides.

And for that I offer in place of unsolicited advertising:

- Classifieds

- Directories

- Brochures

- Information centres

- Expos

- Local bulletins

- Store signage

- Word-of-mouth

- Sponsored events

- Trade publications

Of course these may well not have the bang-for-buck of unsolicited ads, but I dream that one day the visual pollution of third-party advertising will not be as accepted.

Re: Poll: Do you use an adblocker?

#209
post #22

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Oh yeah... plus hosts file blocking of the most egregious servers and DNS blocking of the most egregious domains.

What are some egregious servers? Can I have a peek at your /etc/hosts I have flashblock, adblock with the antisocial filter. Still I see the damn twitter buttons. Is there a way to remove them and g+? How do I prevent google from tracking me?

I use this on my Iphone: http://pgl.yoyo.org/adservers/

To prevent those annoying widget buttons, use NoScript or Ghostery. Of course NoScript's white list method is more secure but I like Ghostery's blacklist approach more. It's tiresome to have to constantly click on NoScript to allow Javascript running

Re: Poll: Do you use an adblocker?

#210

I use a multi-drug cocktail against crapware: AdBlock+FlashBlock+NoScript+Ghostery After some training the web experience is Awesome. Browsing for anything other than a few minutes without these is impossible for me anymore.

May I ask why you use both FlashBlock and NoScript? I haven't looked too much into the former but it looks to me to just have a subset of the functionality of NoScript (which I do use).

On a few sites NoScript causes the whole web Page to go nuts. So rather than dig into what element is causing this I disable NS and fall back to the protection of FlashBlock (Which is doing something simpler).
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