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Re: Replit Mobile App

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Post by svnpenn »

015a wrote: post #113
xnx wrote: post #26

I'm bullish on this because mobile (and web) development is ridiculously overcomplicated to a beginner. I think it's a common misconception that coding/logic is difficult. I find the development setup and deployment to be much more complicated. As evidence, take a look at the impressive workarounds that citizen developers use to make things work in an easy environment like Excel. A keyboard and mouse probably solve m…

I'm, generally, not bullish: But only because the predominating "what value do products like this bring" arguments from those who are bullish is some variation of "it's great for learning/beginners". That's simply no way to build a venture business (and replit has received... $105M). Higher layers of abstraction can make sense; no code tools can be killer; but that isn't really replit. Replit is just a weird product…

Note Heroku isn't free anymore. I know you didn't say it was, but it's worth mentioning.

Re: Replit Mobile App

#132

Post by cft »

In Termux on Android, i can code in vim and compile whatever i want, Rust, C, on my phone, in Linux. I can install python. I can write a python script that makes my phone ring and vibrate on certain events. I use Termux with Unexpected Keyboard.

Both Termux and Unexpected Keyboard are open source and can be downloaded from f-droid store.

Re: Replit Mobile App

#133

Post by ellis0n »

ZephyrBlu wrote: post #124
ellis0n wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay... Did you read my link post https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33267464 ? 1) No. I'm not dumb and programming language author, CTO, polygot, architect, old school, and make better software all my life. I made the world's first mobile IDE and real-time reverse debugger 2) No. 4k likes HN post shows the opposite. I asked Amjad for help while COVID-19 because no job, no money, don't know what to do and this peop…

- The purpose of the project isn't clear (Trying to do heaps of different things) - Your ask was not clear (Asking for help with everything) - It's not clear which 5 projects/ideas Replit "stole" I have nothing to do with Replit and I dislike them after the intern project thing, but this is fair criticism from Amjad.

Okay...

1) Mobile IDE (iPad Pro with keyboard)

2) Real-time reverse debugger (like https://rr-project.org/ with 60 fps and less ram)

3) Full git and video history (Bret Victor inventing on principle)

So

1) “Billions will be repeated on mobile,” Amjad said in the promo, but my project is 10 years old and I’ve been working on it since 2008. This is my idea for 22 years as an old school developer with a lot of experience. A few developers were doing dev on mobiles and this is clearly not Amjad. If he was engaged, then we would happily communicate every day, but this did not happen.

2) Replay 2022 reverse debugger is side project where Amjad is investor. I wrote to Amjad and why he don't asked me at 2020? Here is only a few reverse debuggers in the world rr, ACPU, solidity/web3 and... new replit-replay. Why he not invested in mine better debugger and don't asked any questions? Because

3) History++ is here. I use code logging a lot time, from 2014 first implementation. I have a lot tools like this that Amjad don't know why.

Other features are nothing new right now, but team development, multiplayer, skins, mobile devices, and more look like innovations in 2020. Over the years, I have analyzed many programs and programming languages, as well as IDEs, game engines, etc. I just show Amjad the direction, and he completely ignored me. I think it was easy to analyze my project and make a copy of the key features. I thought a lot why such projects are not done in Silicon Valley, and as soon as I told Amjad, a year later they were implemented in his project. Before that, I did not write much on HN and hide it for years. There are no such coincidences. The mobile phone is a key function, etc. No need to steal ideas.

I hope enough.

Re: Replit Mobile App

#134

Post by redbell »

bin_bash wrote: post #85
user3939382 wrote: post #81

This is the founder who turned into a psycho tyrant (I forget his exact words, but something to the effect of, "we're not the same small company, I have money and lawyers now") on an ex-employee for an innocent side project, threatened to sue him, etc, until it went viral and then backpedaled and offered some non-apology. I remember stuff like that and will never use this company's tools, which is a shame because I w…

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27424195

That was a tragedy and an interesting story at the same time! I dived into it for about an hour and completely lost track of time.

Surprisingly, this story is ranked #8 [1] as the most upvoted HN story of all time.

The founder of Replit posted an apology [2], but got a storm of backlash.

Just a couple of weeks after joining the community, I quickly started noticing how powerful the HN community is. "Hackers" come here to post their complaints, pain points, and difficulties, and the community reacts in a positive way and, most of the time, gets their problems solved. Long life HN :)

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1. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

2. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27429234

Re: Replit Mobile App

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Post by ellis0n »

aaronvg wrote: post #125
ellis0n wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay... Did you read my link post https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33267464 ? 1) No. I'm not dumb and programming language author, CTO, polygot, architect, old school, and make better software all my life. I made the world's first mobile IDE and real-time reverse debugger 2) No. 4k likes HN post shows the opposite. I asked Amjad for help while COVID-19 because no job, no money, don't know what to do and this peop…

sorry but I think the features you listed as being stolen seem pretty generic. For example "mobile IDE (ipad pro with keyboard)" doesn't tell me what specific IDE features you'd implement. In this case, Replit made the "joystick" feature. Same with "team development and other features". Also it seems you're blaming Amjad for your project being delayed? Not sure how that is related.

Unfortunately, in startups, everything is much more complicated than it seems. Try watching the movie Silicon Valley and read this comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33269154. Only a few people in the world were engaged in exclusively specific things and there was no Amjad there. I wrote as a programming language author and software pioneer. Too many coincidences and big money greed

Re: Replit Mobile App

#136

Post by rayhanadev »

ellis0n wrote: post #91

Hello, I'm Viktor from Ukraine, the author and founder of the Animation CPU mobile coding platform, which I've been developing for 10+5 years. 2 years ago during COVID-19, 2014-2022 war in Ukraine and financial pressure, I wrote to Amjad with my ideas about mobile coding and was looking for support. He was introduced as a judge in the Pioneer.app remote accelerator and as an investor, and I had reason to trust him. A…

Okay well what did he copy? Your mobile app demos don't seem to have any similar features to the Replit app; and based on the digging I did, there weren't any novel features that Replit could have stolen.

Furthermore, the Replit app was developed by a separate team that has been working for months on a product, not by one man. Most of the features were initially developed on the website and implemented into the app, and I see no evidence of any similar features _at all_ in the video demos of your application. Certainly no copied UI/UX features and no actual IDE features.

The AI models that Replit trained were done using the latest in technology, not anything that was available over two years ago - hell they implemented OpenAI's Whisper voice recognition AI within weeks after it was released.

Beyond the first three sentences of this post, it spirals into a rant about Amjad's alliance with Russians? and then a comment afterwards calls for anti-fraud organizations to investigate Amjad being "related to the russian capital and money laundering". I say this post is trying to grab attention using pathos from the Ukrainian crisis and past trending hits from HN.

Before I get flamed in the comments, I would like to preface by saying I have my own opinions and am not a Replit stan haha. I did my research before arriving to the conclusions above. If Victor can provide some evidence that refutes my claims and shows correlations of novel ideas (I'm looking specifically at the AI features cause those were the most recent of Replit's releases) then I would be persuaded to believe otherwise.

-RA

Re: Replit Mobile App

#137

Post by ZephyrBlu »

ellis0n wrote: post #133
ZephyrBlu wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- The purpose of the project isn't clear (Trying to do heaps of different things) - Your ask was not clear (Asking for help with everything) - It's not clear which 5 projects/ideas Replit "stole" I have nothing to do with Replit and I dislike them after the intern project thing, but this is fair criticism from Amjad.

Okay... 1) Mobile IDE (iPad Pro with keyboard) 2) Real-time reverse debugger (like https://rr-project.org/ with 60 fps and less ram) 3) Full git and video history (Bret Victor inventing on principle) So 1) “Billions will be repeated on mobile,” Amjad said in the promo, but my project is 10 years old and I’ve been working on it since 2008. This is my idea for 22 years as an old school developer with a lot of experienc…

None of these are particularly unique ideas. There could easily be multiple products which all do these and work in very different ways.

You are asking why the CEO of a company is not deeply engaged with your ideas and didn't invest in them. The simple answer is that you didn't present them well and he probably doesn't have time to dig into them deeply.

I really doubt he did a teardown on your projects and then stole the best parts for his company. More likely, because you are working in a similar space to Replit they happened to build some of the same ideas. For example, a mobile IDE is something that makes of a lot sense for them to build if they have 20% of users on mobile and see it as the future.

Re: Replit Mobile App

#139

Post by ellis0n »

rayhanadev wrote: post #136
ellis0n wrote: post #91

Hello, I'm Viktor from Ukraine, the author and founder of the Animation CPU mobile coding platform, which I've been developing for 10+5 years. 2 years ago during COVID-19, 2014-2022 war in Ukraine and financial pressure, I wrote to Amjad with my ideas about mobile coding and was looking for support. He was introduced as a judge in the Pioneer.app remote accelerator and as an investor, and I had reason to trust him. A…

Okay well what did he copy? Your mobile app demos don't seem to have any similar features to the Replit app; and based on the digging I did, there weren't any novel features that Replit could have stolen. Furthermore, the Replit app was developed by a separate team that has been working for months on a product, not by one man. Most of the features were initially developed on the website and implemented into the app,…

You've misanalyzed the features. Please check my comments

- Amjad said "interesting" then said "not clear" and realized 3 key features asap https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33268592 then I see twitter smiles only from him. Here is $1B in the check

- Features https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33269154 Coincidence?

There are a lot of features in the replit, but he implemented my project after the letter to Amjad. 4k HN toppic just confirms it. I couldn't believe it would happen so fast and it would be Amjad. Why no one else? I wouldn't be writing if I hadn't been involved with the issue for over ten years and hadn't been a mobile development evangelist. There are few such people and Amjad is not one of them.

About russians: I just assumed about russian capital, since only russians have an ideology to destroy Ukrainians by any means, and if the Amjad has Russian investors, then this is a problem. Our team has survived many ethnically targeted attacks since the Russian hybrid aggression has been going on since 2014 when russians shot down the MH17 airplane. All these years, the main methods were related to the theft of money, for example, a project where I had $2M stock options in 2008 was stolen from us. Therefore, there was a press and I wrote to Amjad asking for help. But this requires a separate thread.

PS: Of course, we live in a complex system of technologies and startups. And I must say that many technologies/projects/startups have already been stolen from me and I am a security expert and many projects have been destroyed. So I made titanic work for the project that is technically difficult to steal and Amjad proved it.

Re: Replit Mobile App

#140

Post by darb_ »

ellis0n wrote: post #139
rayhanadev wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay well what did he copy? Your mobile app demos don't seem to have any similar features to the Replit app; and based on the digging I did, there weren't any novel features that Replit could have stolen. Furthermore, the Replit app was developed by a separate team that has been working for months on a product, not by one man. Most of the features were initially developed on the website and implemented into the app,…

You've misanalyzed the features. Please check my comments - Amjad said "interesting" then said "not clear" and realized 3 key features asap https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33268592 then I see twitter smiles only from him. Here is $1B in the check - Features https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33269154 Coincidence? There are a lot of features in the replit, but he implemented my project after the letter to Amjad…

a) you have not specifically made comparisons to the Replit app and your app to point out exactly what was copied, all ive seen so far is just you flaunting your reputation and saying he did without actually proving anything

b) if you did make something you planned on getting investments for, why did you not copyright your ideas and your code? if its not copyrighted or anything you basically did that to yourself.

c) if you did copyright your ideas or code, why are you posting here instead of filing a legal complaint

d) From what I understand there was a dedicated team that made the mobile app and while I can’t personally affirm how much of an influence amjad actually had over the development of the app, it seems to me like the team was mostly independent from amjad

your whole post just seems like its 50% bragging and 50% complaining with zero evidence

if you’re being serious about this you should really edit your post to contain direct comparisons instead of just spewing about “amjad copied my idea” with little to no explination.

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