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EasyList is in trouble and so are many ad blockers

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Re: EasyList is in trouble and so are many ad blockers

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Post by girvo »

chrismeller wrote: post #215
girvo wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was never suggested that what the original commenter was doing would help EasyList.

I didn’t say the OP did, though it was implied. I was responding to a comment which did… context, my friend. Edit: so if OP wasn’t implying that their approach was better, what was the point of posting it? Wow, obtuse much?

It was not implied, you added that implication yourself and started responding to things that were not said, which is why the other commenter who replied to you was also confused, my friend.

Edit:

OP was implying their approach was better for themselves than relying on third party servers. It’s hardly obtuse, it’s a related discussion from someone who would otherwise be impacted by the throttling.

Re: EasyList is in trouble and so are many ad blockers

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Post by sgerenser »

neilv wrote: post #97
robin_reala wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not that you’d do it, but the temptation there is always to repoint your real application to a different URL and change the original image to something subtly NSFW.

In case anyone is inspired to do related things, I made a mistake once (troubling and embarrassing), which I'll mention in case it helps someone else avoid my mistake... In earlier days of the Web, someone appeared to have hotlinked a photo from a page of mine, as their avatar/signature in some Web forum for another country, and it was eating up way too much bandwidth for my little site. I handled this in an annoyed…

Many years ago, back when eBay didn’t even have their own image hosting, I found someone hotlinking to the images from one of my completed auctions for their sale (of an identical product). I ended up swapping the images for ones from urinalpoop.com (seems to no longer exist, but at the time it featured pictures of exactly what you’d imagine by the URL). I ended up getting an angry message from the seller accusing me of “hacking” their auctions.

Re: EasyList is in trouble and so are many ad blockers

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Post by yellowapple »

r3trohack3r wrote: post #217
anigbrowl wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't understand their argument that a text file 'isn't a web content'; seems like a bullshit excuse.

This doesn’t sound like bullshit to me. Serving a static text file that is primarily used by applications is not in line with their terms of service. Cloudflare provides a significant service to the free and open web by subsidizing the hosting costs of static content for websites. They give that away for free under what appears to be reasonable terms.

I can think of few things more static than a .txt file.

Re: EasyList is in trouble and so are many ad blockers

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Post by capitalsigma »

anigbrowl wrote: post #168
JimWestergren wrote: post #79

A great opportunity right now for CloudFlare to win some goodwill and PR by helping out EasyList for free right now. But what about simply enable a firewall and show captcha or similar if the origin IP is from India and requesting that URL until the situation is under control? I did that with the free plan recently in CloudFlare in a similar situation and it worked perfectly (of course on a much smaller scale).

I can't understand their argument that a text file 'isn't a web content'; seems like a bullshit excuse.

It probably means that their DDoS protection needs to use JS to get some trust signals

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Post by swinglock »

pmlnr wrote: post #163
therealmarv wrote: post #151

Bittorrent, switch in long-term to that. Not saying every end-user should be a seeder but there is big bittorrent community out there and everyone could help a little bit. Other options: - A kind of mirror network (it only needs to keep sure that integrity can be checked, maybe with a public key) - And while doing that why not also support compression (why not? only devs need to read it and they can run easily a deco…

Oh, but yes every user should be a seeder. Why not?

Wouldn't need all users to, and many are mobile or on metered connections.

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Post by r1ch »

yellowapple wrote: post #223

Cloudflare's rationale for a ToS violation is absolutely bonkers. Who cares what the file extension is? By virtue of being accessible on the web via a URL it is by definition web content.

Cloudflare's TOS only permit caching for HTML content and related assets. It's probably a useful catch-all they can pull out any time someone uses too much bandwidth.

Re: EasyList is in trouble and so are many ad blockers

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Post by acdha »

metalliqaz wrote: post #100
JimWestergren wrote: post #79

A great opportunity right now for CloudFlare to win some goodwill and PR by helping out EasyList for free right now. But what about simply enable a firewall and show captcha or similar if the origin IP is from India and requesting that URL until the situation is under control? I did that with the free plan recently in CloudFlare in a similar situation and it worked perfectly (of course on a much smaller scale).

that would break everyone in India not using one of those broken browsers

Everyone in the world is impacted if the site goes down under load. Changing that to everyone in a particular country (perhaps with a given user agent if the free plan allows expressions) would still be an improvement even if other work is needed.

Re: EasyList is in trouble and so are many ad blockers

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Post by [deleted] »

chrismeller wrote: post #215
girvo wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was never suggested that what the original commenter was doing would help EasyList.

I didn’t say the OP did, though it was implied. I was responding to a comment which did… context, my friend. Edit: so if OP wasn’t implying that their approach was better, what was the point of posting it? Wow, obtuse much?

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